anyone, esp. with criminal justice experience, NEED HELP DESPERATELY

Actually, quite a few Aussies, Americans, Germans, Israelis, et al… but your point stands.

It was a long time ago, but I think I had to supply my birth certificate in order to get a marriage license. Things could have changed of course. But the point is, that it’s pretty challenging to meander ones way as an adult in our country without having to provide a verifiable social security number. So it’s likely that she was aware of her status at some point. (hell I remember having to get a Social security number for my son when he was 6 months old and they wanted two pieces of ID for him then! - one of which of course had to be his birth certificate).

Anyhow, since the OP hasn’t shown back up with answers to our questions, not sure how much more energy this has.

(aside to Monty excellent points re: working under the table - in my work w/offenders, I point out those points all the time to them.)

If this woman has been living in the USA continuously since she was a baby, and is old enough to have a daughter, she should have some kind of claim to naturalisation. I’m not saying that as a lawyer, I’m saying she should. It’s absurd to deny national status in that case. Of course, the felony muddies the waters some, but good grief, we’re talking about a drug offense, not (I hope) murder!

Oh, yeah, this is the USA. Drug offenses are considered worse than murder. :rolleyes:

Strange but the OP hasn’t come back to answer questions.

wring, getting SS# for children is a pretty new thing, I think. This woman may be 70 years old and got a SS# at 16–over 50 years ago. Anyone have any idea what was required to get a card then, and if perhaps it was easier then to fall through the cracks?

I recall reading an article in the paper some time back about a man in his 80s discovering that he was not, in fact, a citizen. His parents had immigrated when he was an infant, and apparently thought that thier natralization made him a citizen. I don’t remember what finally revealed his status, but he was quite shocked. He must have gotten a SS# somewhere along the way, somehow.

As I recall, he was allowed to stay in the states, but only because he had served in WWII. The article said that otherwise he may have been deported, but I suspect that they would not actually have deported someone who had lived here over 8 decades and had no ties to any other ocuntry. But who knows?

Is thier such a thing as a common law adoption? For example, if a couple took a baby and raised it with thier 2 legal children and then died wihtout a will, would that child have the right to a third of the inheritance, since they were effectivly a child of the people that raised them?

I recall a news story on TV a year or two ago, featuring a woman who had lived in Georgia all her life, and whose parents (or at least one of whose parents) was a U.S. citizen, but, because she’d been born overseas, was officially considered a citizen of Germany.

When she was 16, she got in a scuffle with another school girl (as teenagers are wont to do) and pulled on the other girl’s hair pretty hard. The other girl’s parents overreacted and got the police involved, and, to get the process over with as smoothly as possible, the officially-German-citizen Georgia girl who’d pulled the other girl’s hair plea-bargained by pleading no contest to a rather minor charge of “simple battery.” Her citizenship was never mentioned in the court case, since pulling on someone’s hair is not exactly a Federal offense.

10-20 years later, the Georgia girl – now a Georgia woman – decided to get this whole “officially a German citizen” issue behind her and apply for U.S. citizenship. When she applied, she was informed that she was going to be deported to Germany because the “simple battery” she’d pled no-contest to was considered a deportable offense under Federal immigration law!

Would you be so kind as to dig up that new story? I ask because Germany is not a jus soil state as the USA is. Being born on German soil does not grant German citizenship. One must be born to a German citizen. Feel free to check with the German embassy or consulate (can be found at http://www.embassy.org*). Information regarding acquiring US citizenship at birth if born overseas can be found at http://www.state.org.

Nor is it a felony. And I’m willing to bet that it was, if true, considered in the Juvenile Courts.

See above State Department link.

See above State Department link.

Just a little bump, on the remote chance Miss Pepper really wasn’t just trolling.

Pretty remote, I’d say…