Anyone have a cat with Fatty Liver Disease?

My mother’s 11 year-old cat is very sick. He hasn’t been eating lately and my mom took him to the vet, who said it may be either Fatty Liver Disease or a malignancy. They can’t do anything for him right now, other than put him on antibiotics and steroids, until she can get him to either Cornell in Ithaca, NY or Ottawa, Ont. Since Ottawa is closer (only a 1.5 hour drive), she has an appointment there on Friday morning.

So the vet said that if it is Fatty Liver Disease, the vet in Ottawa can surgically insert a feeding tube for a few weeks and (according to her research on the internet) he may have an 80% chance of survival.

If it’s a malignancy, there’s nothing that can be done and she will have to put him down.

She’s had a hard year with almost losing my dad and having him in and out of the hospital since January and in a nursing home since April. She’s at her wits end. As she told me last night through her sobs, “I’m so tired of my heart hurting.” She’s so lonely and Kitty is the only thing that gives her any comfort right now. I live 4 hours away and it’s so hard to hear her so sad and lonely. I hate that this is happening to her sweet Kitty. :frowning:

Does anyone have experience with this? Is she doing the right thing? She feels like she may be selfish for putting him through this, but I told her that if she put him down now, without knowing if he CAN be saved, then she’ll always wonder. If she finds out it’s a malignancy, at least she’ll be at peace with the decision to put him down. She hates the idea of putting him through this.

My mother is a saintly woman who has put up with a lot from my father over the years. They just started getting along when he got sick. I’m tired of seeing her go through heartache and want her to finally have some happiness. She doesn’t deserve this. It will kill what’s left of her spirit if she loses Kitty.

First off, I’m so sorry to hear that your mom is going through this. Tell her (if you feel it is appropriate) that she’s got at least one stranger on the Internet praying for her and her kitty.

Secondly, I can’t say I have any personal experience with fatty liver disease but I think that it would be best if your mom had the cat tested so she knows for sure what the problem is. We just had a cat go through some surgery (and it wasn’t cheap) because the vets found a “mass” in his bladder. The vets seemed to be very gloomy with us (I think it was just to prepare us for the worst). Given the cost of the surgery and the doubts as to his outcome, I think that a lot of people would have simply had the cat put to sleep. But we didn’t. His whole abdomen was cut open. The “mass” turned out to be a bunch of goop and pus. He’s fine now. We were all in tears before his surgery, preparing to have him put to sleep, but he’s FINE now. You just never know.

I’ve had to put cats to sleep—it’s always hard. I had one cat that literally had days left and I had him put down. I went home and cried for two days because I was plagued with thoughts of, “He could have lasted a little longer. He could have lasted a little longer. Why did I have him put down now?” (Now, in my case I did the right thing because it was definitely the cat’s time. But even when I knew that the cat didn’t have much longer, I still felt bad.)

If your mom just has him put down now, she’ll be plagued with doubts and probably will be saying, “If only I’d have known for sure.” I don’t think she should have to have that hanging over her head. I don’t think that will be good for her. So, I agree with you—she needs to do this just so she’ll know for sure.

And think of it this way—11 years isn’t that old and she may have many more years with Kitty.

I have a cat with Fatty Ass Disease, but that doesn’t sound like the same thing.

Sorry about your mom’s cat. :frowning:

My kitty had Fatty Liver Disease. (and another poster has a cat with the disease currently, do a search for “syringe” and you’ll find him) It’s really, really hard but it can be managed. My cat was very, very sick and had the feeding tube. I used to feel horrible because he was so sick but I kept up the feeding and, four years later, he’s still totally healthy. (still fat too) He was on the feeding tube for around 6 weeks or so before he finally started eating on his own.

I thin it’d be totally worth it to find out if it’s a malignancy or not. Hopefully not. When my kitty was sick with FLS, my other older kitty got liver tumor and had to be put down and it was so hard. But, with a lot of work, FLS can be gotten over. Hope this helps…

tremorviolet, After the feeding tube, what kind of maintenance is there when the cat is back home? Or is the feeding tube in him while he’s at home?

Giraffe, My cat also has Fatty Ass Disease. Lazy Ass Disease, too. :wink:

He had the feeding tube at home. They had him at the clinic and they were trying to force feed him for a week or so. But he just kept getting worse and worse and I knew he was so miserable being there that there was no way he was gonna get better stuck there. So I made them give him to me and kept up the feedings at home.

The feeding tube at home is kinda tricky. You have this big-ass syringe and you use it to force the food (I always diluted it with water) down the tube. I also mixed the medicine (crushed up) with the food. Cat felt so awful that he was pretty docile about the feeding. About half the time, he’d wind up throwing up all the food. That’s when I felt worst, he looked like the vomiting was twisting up his guts inside.

But I kept at it. I remember vividly the first day he actually ate on his own. It was after about six weeks of tube feeding, we were sitting on the couch watching TV and he decided he could eat a small piece of cheddar cheese popcorn from my hand. After that, I started offering him tasty canned food (different from the feedin tube food, he hates that stuff now) and he started eating on his own.

It took a lot of work and cleaning up after him. And not all cats make it. My aunt, a vet, is impressed that my kitty did so well. His lowest weight was around 14 pounds and now he’s back up to 21. Cats get FLD when they’re obese and they suddenly stop eating for some reason. (in my case, I’d just moved from where cat had lived as a kitten for seven years and then went out of town for a week) So it sounds like with all your mom’s problems and your dad passing away, the kitty could have been traumatized and maybe it is FLD.

Anyway, I’m kinda typing this in a hurry so it’s not totally coherent. If you have any other questions, I’d be happy to answer them.

Wow, this sounds like it’s going to be hard, but she loves him so much, she’ll do it. Instead of visiting my brother in Chicago for a week, I think I’ll cancel that and spend a week helping my mom. She’s already at the end of her rope. A challenge like this will push her right over the edge.

Since my mom works all day and goes straight to the nursing home to visit my dad, she’s only home for about an hour or so before going to bed. So that makes sense that Kitty would be traumatized by the lack of affection/attention.

Thanks so much for the advice. I’m glad to have heard about this from someone with firsthand experience. :slight_smile:

This would be me. Our beloved Max had lost some weight dramatically. At first, we though he was getting more exercise (we moved from a condo to a 3-story house, so he was up and down the stairs constantly), but he kept losing. We’d see him try to eat but not manage to break the food down, so we thought it was a problem with his teeth. Turns out, he had pancreatitis and fatty liver disease.

We had the tube inserted in the stomach as soon as we knew it wasn’t a malignancy, and began the laborious feeding regimen. At first, it was incredibly difficult, because the syringes were hard to deal with, the food was so heavy and dense and difficult to push through, and he vomited everything up. He had dropped 4 lbs from his pre-FLD weight, and after two weeks was still losing weight (though much more gradually). He was such a good kitty and never seemed to be in any pain, but we knew he must’ve been uncomfortable (with the tube and the vomit) and depressed (his behavior and personality had changed dramatically).

The food was a prescription diet specifically for his problem. We’d get these syringes that held 60cc and feed him four times a day, adding supplements like potassium, carnatine, and antibiotics, not to mention various anti-nausea measures (plus a separate syringe with water to flush the tube out after each feeding). For two weeks, nothing seemed to work. Blood tests and sonograms were showing that the liver and pancreas were improving, but he was vomiting so much, he was getting severely dehydrated (not to mention very constipated). He also couldn’t groom himself, so we’d have to wash him with a cloth (he hated that worse than the feedings), but we could still tell he didn’t like being so “dirty”.

So the vet recommended that we add some low-cal sodium to his diet. By then, we had the syringe technique worked out (using Pam to grease the syringe helped), and he had gotten used to the feeding procedure (though was so weak he could hardly resist). She also gave us an IV full of electrolytes that we had to give him once a day (this was easier than it sounds, pinching the area behind the neck to painlessly get the needle under the skin).

Incredibly, he turned around virtually overnight. The following week (this last Monday), his weigh-in had him two whole lbs heavier! His liver was also improving, and his personality is back to the way it was before. He was always sweet, but now his behavior is more out-going, he vocalizes more (and purrs more, too), and is taking the stairs. He looks and sounds demonstrably better.

The vet staff was very supportive, saying that almost all the kitties they’d had with this problem pulled through. It just required patience and diligence. My wife and I have done virtually nothing aside from work since this started (and we both called in several sick days to get the critical mid-day feedings in when we could). Because of our schedules, the feedings were often done by one of us, so it can be done solo, though it’s easier as a team effort. We created a spreadsheet so we could track how much he ate, at what time, which supplements were with which feeding, and the frequency of the throw-ups. This was extremely helpful.

Also, we can’t overstate how important positive reinforcement was as well. One of us slept with him every night (on the couch, the floor, wherever he was most comfortable). We petted him and talked to him constantly. We never let him forget how much we loved him and always made sure he knew that we were never cross about the vomiting, the pooping or peeing (we had to move the litter box much closer to where he was convalescing as a result). We just wanted him to get better.

And he is on the road to recovery. Now, he is impatient for his feedings, but is also eating on his own. We had food and water out all the time, in hopes that he would try them. We’d also try all sorts of “people food” (salmon, chicken, SPAM, anything) to tempt him to eat something. He’d always sniff but never attempted, until…well, he did. It’s hard to describe how quick the transformation was, but he turned the corner so quickly we weren’t really expecting it. Some kitties will be different, but friends who also faced this problem agreed that the recovery can truly come out of the blue, just like that. There’s quite a bit more to go (probably another 3 weeks at least with the tube, gradually weaning him off it), but the worst, we suspect, is behind us.

Having you there for the first week will be very helpful for her, since you can work out the kinks in the feeding program together. If she has a friend or neighbor that loves cats and can help, that’d be great too. It was very frustrating sometimes (and we often contemplated worst case scenarios), but encourage her to not give up. The recovery rate is very high–it just requires a lot of patience (the love comes easily, I think) and hope.

Good Luck.

The most important part of treating hepatic lipidosis is to get food in the cat. I don’t think it should wait until Friday. Is the cat hospitalized at her vet, is it getting IV fluids?

My cat has had hepatic lipidosis as well. Perhaps a vet will come along and clarify, but I’ve been confused as to whether it is caused by not eating for a period of time (because of some other problem), or if it occurs on its own and results in not eating.

My experience with my cat was tough, but he made it through and is happy and healthy today. I’ve learned to pay very close attention to his eating and if something is the slightest bit off, he gets a check up. That’s how I am with all my cats now because of that.

Anyway, we tried a stomach tube and it didn’t work for him, then we had a tube through his nose. I might not do that with certain cats (like my girl Murphy), but he really seemed to have a will to live and didn’t seem to mind the tubes much. So we got him through. This happened when he was about 4 years old, and he is now 11.

I agree that action has to be immediate. It may require some work, but I’d say if the cat is up to it, he could recover nicely. One thing that hopefully your vet will tell you (which my first vet did not) is that prednisone can cause diabetes, and that’s what happened to my cat…so I only give it to him when he looks like he’s not doing well/eating as much as I want him to or having asthma attacks.

I am not a vet but I am a certified veterinary technician and have been for 21 years. Hepatic lipidosis can be a primary disease or often secondary to some other problem that caused the cat to stop eating for a few days. It occurs more often in obese cats but they are not always obese. Cats in the wild are meant to be lean mean carnivores, their livers have a problem metabolizing a lot of fat. When a cat goes a couple days without eating, fat travels from the fat stores to the liver to be metabolized but it’s too much and the liver becomes infiltrated with fat and unable to function.

If the cat stopped eating because of stress or a minor ailment that caused it to lose it’s appetite their prognosis is much better than if there is some other underlying disease. If there’s a more serious underlying liver problem like cholangiohepatitis or bile duct obstruction or some other otherwise treatable disease, it may require more intensive therapy but they can still recover with aggressive therapy. The bad prognosis would be if there is neoplasia (cancer) present. Full bloodwork, X-Rays, ultrasound and even a liver biopsy may be necessary for a diagnosis.

As long as there is no neoplasia the possibility of recovery is 80% with aggressive therapy. The most important part of therapy is getting nutrition in the cat. Syringe feeding or force feeding is not likely to get enough nutrition in the cat and it’s stressful and may cause aversion to food. Feeding by stomach tube, either with an orogastric tube, nasogastric tube or PEG tube is the best way to get food in the cat. The second two options can be used by the owners at home after it has been placed but the PEG tube is better for long term. NG tubes tend to be smaller and require a more liquid diet. Treatment can take up to 6 weeks or more, so it requires a hefty committment from the owner to care for the cat at home.

Treatment usually begins with hospitalization for at least a few days on IV saline (no lactated fluids), monitor electrolytes, control nausea and vomiting with medications and start feeding as soon as possible. Antibiotics are okay to treat possible underlying infection and prevent secondary infections. Also, lactulose is given to help remove toxins (which could lead to hepatic encephalopathy) and supplements such as Vitamin K and SAM-e may be helpful fro the liver (but please only give these if advised by your vet). Anything metabolized by the liver should be avoided.

I hope your mother’s cat comes through this.

By the way, Hepatic Lipidosis is the most common liver disease in cats.