But they are right wing, social Darwinist unicorns. Get too close and they’ll eat you, while lecturing you on how it’s all your fault.
If only I’d listened to the social conservatives. If I were a virgin they wouldn’t eat me.
I didn’t dodge your question. If you got a real job, you’d have health insurance. What don’t you understand?
I’m guessing it’s the “job” part that freaks you out.
Jesus, you’re a c…no, can’t say that. Take two.
Jesus, you’re a fucking vagina, aren’t you?
You’re a real drizzly sack of shit, you know?
Heh, sure you do. 
Tell me about it. I got a fake job. Instead of health care, I got a bag of magic beans. Instead of a paycheck, I get “hope” and “change.”
Curse your black heart President Obama.
Ah, so I guess you don’t have one, huh?*
*[sub]Note: I am NOT knocking anyone who has not been to college, or is currently unemployed. Just the hypocrisy of Carol Stream knocking my education when she doesn’t even have one herself. Notice she has yet to inform us what she does for a living.[/sub]
Here you go, not that I’ve ever noticed cites having any effect on your thinking in the past. This is from the US Dept of Labor Employee Benefits Security Administration:
IIRC, Guin has epilepsy that I assume is under continuous treatment, so yes, her employee based health care plan could deny her coverage for that. Thus, your glib solution that she “get a job” is bullshit, of course. You ought to apologize to her, but I expect Lucifer to take up ice skating first.
If there’s been a gap in coverage for, I wanna say 90 days - could be wrong, most insurance won’t cover treatment for pre-existing conditions for, I wanna say a year - could be wrong.
I’ll find a cite tomorrow, though it may just be typing in the fine print from the coverage I have at work.
It did use to be that way if you changed insurance at all, even with no gap, but the law was changed to eliminate that loophole some years ago.
There’s a ‘working girl’ joke in there somewhere.
By the way, are you ever going to get to the part where you explain just why it was OK for you to take other people’s money for your education, but it’s a high crime for any of your money to be used for other people’s health care?
That’s not been my experience. After I was hired, I filled out paperwork, sure, but it was limited to name, address, phone number, emergency contact, and direct deposit info.
Nevertheless, I was 100% covered by the health plan, on Day 1. Prior conditions notwithstanding, as they weren’t even asked about.
You know, no one here is trying to knock the back alley cock out of your mouth, if that gets you health coverage I’m sure it’ll come in handy when the syphilis sets in.
I’ll call the Dept. of Labor and let them know that they’re wrong and to make corrections based upon your experience.
Are the leprechauns in your world right wing as well? Probably call me a socialist for trying to take their pot of gold.
Do you realize that I just offered you a cite from the government’s website, proving that YES, in fact, an employer health plan can opt not to cover pre-existing conditions? I gave you a cite, quoted the relevant part and everything for you. Your anecdote does not trump actual facts, you realize that.
What Frank says is also true: if you jump straight from one job with coverage to another, the pre-existing condition exclusion cannot be used. If the gap is long than 63 days, however, it can be:
So, if you have the misfortune to be unemployed or graduate college and are not able to afford a COBRA (and really who can?) to continue your coverage, and have a pre-existing medical condition like epilepsy, then you’re screwed. Lucky, lucky Carol Stream has never been in this situation, so therefore it doesn’t exist. Is that your argument? Weak shit, baby. Just apologize and admit you were wrong. Half the Dope will die of shock, that should cheer you up.
True. But the federal government can’t just spend the money on anything. We have a limited federal government. The federal government can’t do anything it wants.
Yep, Rubystreak – and when it was diagnosed, I didn’t have health insurance, so I’m pretty much screwed. I was able to get Medicaid and what PA’s “ACCESS” program to help me pay off the hospital bills – but even then I had to pay the bulk of them.
I also missed a LOT of work this winter, when my meds were being adjusted, so I lost work time too.
(In this case, it’s my grandfather’s fault, though – I inherited it from him. 
Oh, look, it’s Carol Stream shitting in a topic with trollishness. Good to see it’s still business as usual in the pit.
You make people who are bitches just because they can be look nice.
You’re a lying prick, aren’t ya, you stupid troll. Of course I have an education, and more than you do. I guess 35,000 posts somehow exempts you from the rules, bitch.
The profit motive tends to reduce prices to the cost of production given a free market. Not saying the health care market is free, but I think you have the wrong idea about profit.
There are a lot of different flavors of government-run medicine out there. Some work better than others but none has been tried in this country and on this scale. I don’t have any answers, just a sneaking suspicion that the only thing worse than the status quo would be a health care system subject to Congressional whims, and some of their whims are pretty goddamned whimmy. We have to deal with the Congress we have, not some fantasy Congress where each member of the standing committee has passed the Harvard graduate course on public health and the committee chair is the former C. Everett Koop Professor of Family Medicine at the Mayo Clinic.
You have something better than a vote, my crimson-tunicked friend: you have the right to change to the insurance company whose policies best meet your needs or are best aligned with your particular code of ethics. If no companies will insure birth control, there must not be a profitable way to provide that coverage. And if the government hasn’t yet mandated that insurers must cover birth control, it’s likely they wouldn’t include it in a government-run health system, either.