Huh. I wasn’t aware that being too disabled to work was a decision one could just make whenever one felt like it. Nor was I aware that losing at least $20,000 a year in income was something everyone envies. As for “pony up”, is that the term you are going to use when you apply for your social security? Or is that somehow different because it’s you?
For the record, my SS payments started last month.
The only reason that you think that anything has changed over time is because you have some idea that disabled must equal bedridden or at least housebound.
If there was any way for us to change places, so you could get what you seem to think is free money and I could go back to work without having to put up with the pain, exhaustion, weakness, insomnia and overall unreliable body I have, I’d do it in a New York second. Heck, I won’t even wish my health issues on you, you can have the SS money for free - as long as I don’t have to live in this body anymore, I’ll be happy to go back to work and you can have the SS payments.
It would be nice to think she’s just a troll, and that no one could be that heartless, illogical, and mean. But a scarier thought is that she is exactly as she claims, and that she clings to her evil view of the world and other humans because she’s too myopic, penurious, and miserable to admit that other people are human, and suffer just like she does. And there are more where she came from, and unfortunately, many of them are shaping policy in this country.
Look hon, just because you are personally insulted by the fact that I resent having to support every other person with a sob story doesn’t mean that you can continue to make up stories to suit your bias. No matter what you want to call it, the SS I am getting is money I paid into the system for almost 40 years and now I need it back. That is far different than demanding that we levy yet another tax to create yet another government handout so that people can be personally responsible for yet another thing.
Do you also bitch at retirees that take their social security payments when they are financially comfortable without them?
As for “grilling” Guin, what you quoted was obviously about Bridget Burke, so do stop trying to get support for your rants by pretending that I’m “grilling” some poor sick person.
Except, that seems to be what you accuse everyone else of doing. It’s okay for YOU to accept disability…but not for anyone else. It’s okay for YOU to scrutinize every little detail of my “story” (or whatever)…but heaven forbid we do your’s…right?
Since embryos are genetically screened before implantation, a child conceived through IVF is less likely to have a genetic illness than one conceived through intercourse. Argument from ignorance doesn’t serve any purpose.
Being that Guin is a single person without children who is not classified as disabled, she is not on Medicaid because she does not meet the eligibility requirements for it in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. You can find those requirements for yourself with a simple Google search.
Providing care for children while their parents can’t get care, can’t leave jobs, can’t start businesses, etc. doesn’t seem to be a reasonable approach at all. Lack of care for children bankrupts families but lack of care for adults affects the entirety of our economy.
Yes, childhood cancers are entirely irresponsible. Diabetes is entirely irresponsible. I personally could have surely done something to avoid developing two autoimmune disorders. Wishing harder, I suppose.
And yet, according to you, developing a condition that will prevent one from being able to get health insurance is a decision one can make whenever one feels like it, or is, at least, more in one’s control, somehow, than becoming disabled.
I would say that this is ironic, but it’s not, it’s just illogical. Beyond illogical unto hypocritical. And plainly stupid.
And I lived in your area for 35 years and am well aware of how narrow-minded most of the people are up there. Trying to stuff people into slots was one of the favorite pastimes, among other things. Any wonder I left?
You do realize that you just did to him what you’re claiming he did to you, right? More egregiously hilarious hypocrisy from you. You never disappoint.
You’ve got it backward. I found it was the OC people who were the ones who wouldn’t think out of the box. They, as you have demonstrated in this thread more times than I’m willing to count, would not go beyond their ‘God And Country’ beliefs; nor even entertain the idea that the world is a bigger place than Laguna Niguel or Newport Beach or Irvine.
I was at a party in Newport Beach once. There was a girl there I thought I wanted to know, so I asked a friend about her. He said, ‘Well, let me put it this way: It’s a good thing you drive a Porsche.’ Instant turn-off. And when I started working down there, I found that this type of person was more prevalent than I encountered in L.A. Why should anyone care what kind of car I drove? Everything was about money. My coworkers knew the price of everything and the value of nothing. It was disgusting.
But L.A./Orange County rivalries really don’t have anything to do with your refusal to provide any evidence at all to back up the claims you’ve made in this thread (which has been pointed out several times by others), nor why you completely ignore the supporting evidence that shows your position is factually wrong.
It seems like with all the press that California’s money woes has been getting, you would have a clue about this. However, from the first page of a Google search -
this from a somewhat biased site (to the other side)
Or this one, which appears to be even more biased towards continuing to support illegals.
Actually, it has quite a bit to do with it since children who grow up in households where it is expected that the government will support them tend to repeat that “lifestyle”. At some point, we should try to break that chain of dependency.
Well, aside from the fact that you aren’t debating at all, I went thru all of that in that thread that you mention right there. Go look.
You should try reading the thread before you stick your oar in - the 100 families was an example, put forth by someone else.
As for your study, it was a rather small sample and was skewed from the beginning in that they started out by only looking at people that claim medical expenses as to why they were filing for bankruptcy. I don’t know anything about those laws, but it is quite possible that there are only a few reasons that folks are allowed to use, medical expenses being one of them. And I rather doubt “I had to buy an SUV with that $10,000” is a reason that is acceptable.
So how many things to you want to be absolutely equal, that you demand others pay for? You want the taxpayer to pay to feed everyone, make sure that everyone can get clean drinking water, and go to the doctor whenever they feel like it. We also have subsidized housing, schooling, transportation and the list goes on. Does it occur to you that the ability of the taxpayer to pay for these things isn’t infinite?
To anyone they are demanding pay for it. Which includes me, and most likely Crafter_Man, Carol Stream and leander. If you want to volunteer a chunk of your income to pay for healthcare for all, that is certainly your right. Why do you not allow us that same right?
Prove it. Which means doing something other than pointing at another country and saying “see, it works there”.
And you cling to the idea that those opposing a UHC are greedy wealthy people who walk on poor people on the way to their limos. Those folks will most likely not be affected by a UHC, but the disappearing middle class will. Particularly since the boomers are retiring and will be on fixed incomes - they simply will not be able to afford to eat more in taxes and/or go elsewhere should the government provided doctors and hospitals turn out to be less than wonderful.
Shoving a one size fits all plan down all our throats, while giving us the “privilege” of paying for all the people who can’t afford insurance now but still don’t qualify for Medicaid.
How about you all quit supporting people who have children in conditions where they are likely to die, unless the government intervenes? How about you all quit glorifiying pregnancy and babies? And quit thinking it’s just fine for teenagers and the un-hitched to have kids? Why do you think all of these children are in such bad shape to begin with?