I hope you look good, because you’re the possessor of a powerful stupid.
The current plan isn’t one size fits all. It’s exactly like it is now, except insurance companies can’t deny anyone coverage because of a pre-existing conditions. If you like your current coverage, you’ll be able to keep it.
The current plan is to allow an optional public health insurance plan for those that want to buy in.
Ya dig?
It is only your problem if you demand that I pay more taxes to support your lifestyle choices.
Your taxes aren’t going up? How did you manage that?
No, I have never been on public assistance.
Again stupid, the current plan will allow free abortions. So that’s a step in the right direction for you isn’t it?
It’s amazing how your arguments are simply random things you’ve stupidly imagined because you’re too lazy to actually do research. Seriously, your husband is a saint.
Sorry for casting aspersions. You’re the silly bitch who has never been on public assistance.
Hey, there’s a good reason to create a multi-billion dollar experiement - to piss someone off! :rolleyes:
As for the rest of that, the cite is in the “insurance poopy-heads” thread, and has been mentioned here as well. Go look for yourself.
The current proposal, which is likely to change, is that a tax could be levied on those who make more than 300k per year.
And you have already been given a cite that says, at least in one state, the vast majority of the bankruptcies are caused by credit card debt. Since a sudden health care issue can be the last straw for people living hand to mouth, but it usually takes awhile to build up serious credit card debt, why is it so hard for you to accept that these folks with the health care issues may not have been at all responsible? So what if they could buy a house? Up until recently my cat could have purchased a house! Do you think the cat would be able to make the payments?
Or try this one - since we don’t charge on our cards very often, if hubby and I had a big medical bill, we could charge over $10,000 between my Mastercard and his VISA, which doesn’t even count his Amex, or our savings. Is it now unfashionable to have those sorts of reserves in case of a problem?
And it’s totally not possible that might apply to you?
Which is kind of how I feel about you all. How can you keep ignoring my cites, history, what is going on in the world? Do you just get your views from Faux News? Did you never learn analytical thinking? The truth about statistics? I feel like I’m surrounded by children, particularly those that just jump right into the playground name calling.
You know that how?
Try quoting a bit more of what you are talking about and I’ll know what it is you are looking for.
It is our responsibility to make sure you are cared for. That’s sort of the point of any type of social structure. That’s what humans do. We get together and look out for each other, because if we don’t we all die. Even the hermit who lives at the top of a mountain in the deepest wilderness you can imagine is benefited by society. Even the CEO of a corporation that made a trillion dollar profit benefits from society.
That’s the part of the deal rich people are trying to get a takeback on. The deal was “we do the work you don’t want to do while you live in wealth and are free from regular everyday concerns, and in return you look after our well being and provide some stability for us.” What’s happening instead is that the rich people keep their lifestyle and freedom while they steal money from pension funds, lay off 10% of their work force, reduce wages, bust up organized labor movements, and influence the government to reduce oversights, allowing for the biggest gap between rich and poor among all of the free countries of the world.
I do not give a fuck that your taxes are going to go up. We have given you everything you have, laboring for you and trading our freedom for a promise you have broken. I don’t want to hear the tiniest little fucking peep out of you that we’re taking back some of the money you stole from us by preventing us from negotiating on fair terms, sometimes going as far as using the fucking military to force us back to work.
You exist because we allow you to. Now fucking pay up, and get back to your golf course, you fucking whiners.
Honey, I haven’t addressed your “story” at all. I believe the closest I have come is to respond to someone who was responding to someone who was responding to you. However, I couldn’t care less if you want to “scrutinize” me. Unlike most folks in here, I have nothing to hide and am not defensive about my life.
I have never said that it is not okay for anyone to get disability. Unlike welfare, you have to go thru quite a bit to qualify for it, and if you are of any age, you probably paid into it.
But two years ago she admitted she was on Medicaid. How did she qualify?
If I have a “right” to be healthy, and I am not healthy, who should I sue?
99.99% of things in your life are privileges. You have very few rights. Furthermore, rights are (generally) things you do not have to pay for. If I had a right to healthcare, why am I currently paying for it? Healthcare is not - and should not - be a “right.” You may as well say, “I have a right to a portion of someone else’s property.”
I love people like you.
Once upon a time, the rich were canny and ruthless. When their excesses finally got to the point where enough people were angry enough to pick up weapons and do something about it, they quickly threw support behind the New Deal to cut off the legs of the growing revolutionary movement. Fortunately, folks like you and Dubya are now in charge, and you’re too stupid to understand that you’re piling cordwood on the fire which will incinerate you.
Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are the two richest men on Earth, and they both voluntarily gave up a significant portion of their wealth. Why? These are not stupid men, and they are certainly far from generous or kind. They are, however, exceedingly intelligent, and they both can see that the rich have taken too much, too quickly. There are, once again, enough desperate and disenfranchised lumpen proles to threaten the stability of the system which keeps them on top of the dogpile.
I sure hope their efforts aren’t enough to deflect the effets of folks like you and Rand Rover. Your short-sighted, sociopathic, triumphalist crowing and preening is exactly what we need to stir revolutionary spirit in the hearts of enough people to get this revolution going.
Ten whole grand? My appendectomy in 2005 cost $26,000. I had health insurance that I was paying for out of pocket while looking for a job that had benefits (which I got three months later), and I still had to pay $8000. Sadly, had my appendix waited three months to burst, I would have paid the $50 ER copay and that’s it. Gotta love government jobs.
Why should I care if your taxes go up? You don’t give a fig about my priorities, why should I care about yours?
Thanks to all that replied regarding my circumstances. I’ve always wondered when reading these discussions how someone like me would fair. I was somewhat surprised to see that if I had an employee based insurance scheme that, after a certain amount of time, they would probably start paying for my insulin.
But don’t worry, I’m not actually moving to the US. I was just interested.