AOL vs. Other ISP

When I think of AOL a feeling of oppression comes over me…

I started on AOL in late '97 early '98. Not that long ago. And yes, it is excellent for newbies. It was good for me, I was totally on my own - all my techie friends were in other states, so I couldn’t get anyone to come over and configure my PC for me. But, I was a “quick study” (i.e. obsessed and learned fast) and soon outgrew AOL. I got sick of being bumped off, I got sick of having to reinstall AOL because my aging PC was “allergic” (that’s how it seemed) to the software. I got sick of the ads, and the phone calls at home. I wanted more control over my settings, how I got email, how I uploaded and downloaded files, and I needed to GET OFF AOL. So I did, switched to EarthLink. Ah! Freedom at last!

By the way, when I first switched to EarthLink, I tried to download their software while logged on to AOL. I couldn’t. Just couldn’t. That damed “A” just kept spinning and spinning, like the page was waiting to load, but it never did. I’d wait for 10, 20 minutes (knowing how unpredictable AOL could be) and still just the spinning “A”. And this was not a bad connection - I could load any other page quickly during the same AOL session, just not that particular download site. I later came to the conclusion that AOL was “blocking” my access to EarthLink, since EarthLink confirmed that there was no reason on their end why I should not be able to download their software. Pretty crappy, and sneaky. I was terribly offended that I was paying AOL for “unlimited access”. Presumably this “access” was to anywhere I wanted to go. I didn’t think they should ethically be allowed to block my access to download their competitor’s software, but that is what (I am convinced) they were doing. And I was paying them. Fortunately, I was not paying by the hour. But it would be even crappier if I had been - imagine - me paying them hourly, paying them while I wait to download something that they are secretly preventing me (blocking) from downloading! The appalling nerve!

Well, A Girl, if you are happy with AOL for now, don’t sweat it. But there is a whole new wonderful Internet World out there, and it comes with a lot less control, and less strings attached. Using AOL comes with a price, and it just isn’t the $22 you pay a month.

Maybe my experience is out of the ordinary, but that’s the way things go.

I’ve been on AOL since the PC Link days (1988 or so, IIRC); and have had Internet access since the late 70’s, (ARPANet…rah!) through a variety of means. A major portion of my time on AOL used to be for the purposes of Beta testing for GeoWorks, Inc. As they wrote the original AOL UI, this was a logical place for GeoWorks to conduct business.

I’m not online to chat. I’m online to get information and to maintain my web sites; maybe read these boards (among others) and access my e-mail accounts. I don’t have a problem doing that, no matter what ISP I use.

Interestingly enough, when I do run Win-Whatever, I use a number of different browsers for “surfing” (I hate that word!)–Netscape, IE 5.x 128b stand alone, WebSpyder, as well as a few others.

On the odd, and very infrequent, occasion I may lose my connection because of an overloaded node–maybe once in six months or so. All ISPs suffer from this, and it’s a traffic-related problem. (I had a problem with maintaining a connection a while back, but that was traced to a bad connection in the subscriber loop of my phone line. Switching cable pairs resolved the issue.) I never get “booted off” or “punted” perse anymore (read that as within the past 2 years or so).

Via AOL, limitations as to web access simply don’t exist–using either AOL’s integrated browser or one of the stand-alone browsers that I have on the computer–I go where I want to and I get the information I need. Objections in thei realm seem to be the complaints of those who need to be spoon-fed.

“Evil” AOL 5.0 hasn’t taken over my computer, nor has it impregnated my cat or any other such hype. It gets along well with my other ISP software and browsers, thnk you very much.

SPAM is going to be a problem anytime you make an e-mail addy available to the public. AOL has gotten an unfair rap in this respect, and they have actually been one of the most responsive ISPs in dealing with the problem. Most of the other ISPs have responded along the lines of: “We’re working on it, but it’s the Internet, what do you expect?” To a certain extent, I do agree with that line of reasoning.

I’ve found that I have been far more successful in dealing with the SPAM problem in my own unique and ruthless <VWG> fashion. The FTC is your friend!

As a result, I don’t get SPAMmed anymore–maybe something like 1 piece of UCE in the past 9 months, and that was on one of my website contact addys. I need to do something about that, it was a fun diversion on occasion.

Idiots? Sure, there are lots of them on the “Net” now, and I chaffed at the influx of same in the early 90’s–just as I chaffed at the commercialization of the Internet in 94. IMHO, the only folks that have a problem with AOL’s TOS are those same idiots who somehow get the idea that they “own” the service and that it’s subject to free speech. >DING!< Sorry folks, it’s AOL’s service and AOL’s rules. That’s life–deal.

As an aside, the nice thing about AOL (in the 9600 modem days) was that all of their local numbers auto-forwarded to 800 numbers–something that I haven’t looked into lately–and I had 12 - 800 numbers to choose from in accessing the Internet (not surcharged numbers, mind you, totally free dial-in numbers).

Today I have 4 local AOL numbers to choose from and fewer local numbers from other ISPs. Someday I’ll get around to checking up on the auto-forwarding situation, but there’s really no need to do so now, as I never get busy signals from AOL. I get them regularly from other ISPs.

Local ISPs are a risky proposition and I don’t use them, nor do I use the free access providers. Comparatively, their services suck–although your mileage may vary, keep in mind that it is a local provider issue. There are good ones and bad ones.

Having had opportunity to look at the computers of several individuals and corporations who note problems with dial-up access; I have found that, more often than not, access woes are actually caused by improperly configured hardware, software, or the selection of a blasted WinModem for interface hardware. A few keystrokes, or installing a good quality 3COM modem or NIC, takes care of the problems in most cases.

:::Banging head against desk:::
People! Do yourselves a humongous favor and don’t bother with WinModems!

What do I prefer for access? A T3 connection, with a T1 as a runner-up. Barring that, I see no difference between the National ISPs offering 56K modem access to the Internet.

Online Content Providers are a different matter entirely, and AOL has been slipping in that respect for quite some time.

I will grant you that AOL does pander to the least common demoninator of the ignorant computer user–the same way that Apple, Inc. does. Life goes on.


Kalél
Common ¢ for all ages…
“Well, there was that thing with the Cheese-Wiz…but I’m feeling much better now!” – John Astin, Night Court
“If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.”

What’s perse? Of course I mean “per se.”


Kalél
Common ¢ for all ages…
“Well, there was that thing with the Cheese-Wiz…but I’m feeling much better now!” – John Astin, Night Court
“If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.”

I hate AOL with a holy passion.

I had AOL for a grand total of three and a half weeks (version 3.0 a while back) and I despised every minute of it.

Aol gives you a very slow connection to the net itself due to its Tier 2 architecture and very slow routers and backbones.

Their customer service isn’t.

They provide no protection from hackers, in fact an AOL connection is easy to break into if you are on AOL as well…ask any script kiddie in the ‘server’ rooms if you don’t believe me.

AOL is full of stupid people who are constantly talking about nothing in particular, so there is no mental stimulation.

AOL has to have its own dial up adapter (it sucks that much)

AOL takes up a fair amount of ram and harddrive space.

AOL has a crappy interface that a retarded monkey on badly mixed crack could design better.

AOL, in short, isn’t worth it. If you MUST talk to aol people, get AIM. All us NORMAL people out there have ICQ.

If you can’t afford more then 20 bucks a month, get a normal ISP.

I am among the few lucky people who can get cable, and among the fewer who get it for only 25 a month. (the one GOOD thing AT&T has done for me)

If you can, get a broadband connection. AOL isn’t worth it.

There are four local ISPs in my area that are half the cost (or less) of AOL and at least two national ISPs that are free.

I have Been a Freewwweb cheerleader in many other similar ISP threads, and I continue to be one. I have better things to do with $250.00 per year than spend it on something that’s available for free. Even if you really need 24/7 tech support, Erol’s (in the DC area) is top-notch & still less than half the cost of AOL.

The best analogy I can make is: If you enjoy being the student in a driver’s ed car, then you probably also like the “ease” of AOL. I have broken many [technically clueless] people away from AOL and they have all been grateful ever since.

Do whatever makes you happy…

Since WolfMan mentioned the lack of Netiquite, I thought this might be of interest to some: <a href=“http://marketing.tenagra.com/rfc1855.html”>RFC 1855</a>


Kalél
Common ¢ for all ages…
“Well, there was that thing with the Cheese-Wiz…but I’m feeling much better now!” – John Astin, Night Court
“If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.”

What used to be a good habit is now a bad habit…someday I’ll remember.
http://marketing.tenagra.com/rfc1855.html


Kalél
Common ¢ for all ages…
“Well, there was that thing with the Cheese-Wiz…but I’m feeling much better now!” – John Astin, Night Court
“If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.”

      • I was told about the alternate-net limitations of AOL but that wasn’t anything I was interested in using then, and still aren’t now. I quit AOL for a few reasons:
        1 - busy signals, from about school-let-out time, until 11:00 PM or so, Monday through Friday. Saturday and Sunday was busy from ~6:00 PM 'till 11:00 PM. If you got kicked off, it would take about 15 minutes until you could sign back on.
        2 - I’d almost always get kicked off in the middle of large downloads (8-12 Gigs) and AOL’s browser didn’t seem to “save” its progress, so if I tried again, the download would restart at the beginning rather than from the middle, where it left off. -And one day, AOL changed their “you will be automatically disconnected in ten minutes” window so that it wouldn’t show up on top if you were using Navigator. So then, if you were, say, reading a long text page, you got no warning at all: you just got kicked off. Navigator was preferable because it consistenty seemed to load pages faster than AOL’s browser or IE 4.
        3 - I had a site for a college class I was taking, and AOL would not load it properly. There was one other student (who used AOL) in that class of 40 people, and we were the only two who couldn’t view it from our home computers. This was the first class that had a interactive website; due to my job’s hours using the school’s computers is not attractive. I couldn’t take the chance of this being a regular occurrance.
        4 - They got rid of the Straight Dope Board, which was where I mostly spent my AOL-content time. So fuck them. - MC