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I had not given you a second thought until the other poster said I dont care about you, (which i dont of course, since I dont know you it would be hard), then YOU referenced ME and then you made some sad comment like your feelings were hurt at the thought of this, and would stop posting as a result, so out of pity i referenced you (thrice!) to show I have no ill will, with a smiley face even to cheer you up!. But no, not looking for a hiking buddy, so no worries:)
…the question that was asked of you was “First explain exactly what she has done wrong.”
The answer to that question should have been what you have just said to me: which was “I cannot.”
That you chose not to answer that way, instead choosing to waffle on about some insignificant nonsense, shows that you are intentionally obfuscating for the purpose of hiding the fact that the entire premise of this thread is complete and utter fucking bullshit.
And you are doing it again.
Next up: A thread about how much Doork doesn’t care about AOC.
There is an ongoing (not saying legal) investigation going on, at least by reporters, similar to those who exposed Watergate. the OP mentions nothing about new evidence found that proves anything definitively. The OP states new evidence has come out that shows a previous thread that was at the time deemed absurd, is maybe not so absurd, and maybe people shouldnt rush to judge about things they have no inside knowledge on? having an opinion on whether Rep. Omar committed fraud is like having an opinion if Farmer Bob in Billings has committed fraud- we dont know him, so how can we make a judgement?
I’d be willing to bet my one testicle if there was a thread about Lance Armstrong in the “what am I on? Im on fucking bike, busting my ass” days, most came to his defense. Same thing here. A logical person, even a fan, should have said when asked if they think is he guilty or not- not hell no, but “I dont know him, I dont the facts, so I dont have an opinion- how hard is that”?
You will end nothing. I wasn’t even talking to you. Notice which poster was quoted, and which one I specifically responded to?
To you? I mean, you’re clearly trolling. You started this thread attacking the entire message board, including the moderators. Then, just a few posts later, you complain about people being insulting back to you. It’s clear your purpose was just to stir up shit.
And it’s rather coincidental that I post about how you’d only ever posted in one other Pit thread besides the Russian troll thread, and then you suddenly create this new thread–one with such a tenuous rationale.
And then there’s your past troll-like activity. And your idea that reparations should be paid to black people contingent of them going back to Africa.
You’re clearly a troll, and trolls are gonna troll. I can try to get under your skin like I did in the other thread. (Hell, I clearly did so accidentally, with you clearly freaking the fuck out.) But, other than that, trolls are gonna troll.
So I’m going to address the guy who is actually reachable, who actually has a history on this board that isn’t suspicious. Hell, the only reason I’m replying to this post right now is that I don’t want him to think you actually refuted anything I said.
If doing so happens to piss you off, that’s just a bonus. Pissing off trolls is fun. You came to the Pit, attacked everyone, and then are whining that people aren’t nice to you. Fuck off, asshole.
…so the answer still is “there still is no evidence?”
Did you actually write this sentence: " investigation going on, at least by reporters, similar to those who exposed Watergate"? Are you really this fucking stupid?
Did you notice that plenty of people in this very thread (including me) have said the equivalent of “I dont know him, I dont the facts, so I dont have an opinion?” How hard is it for you to read the fucking thread?
To the liar- you said I posted a thread to defend another thread that stated or implied incest. I called you on it and your response not only gives no supporting evidence to your lie, you completely ignore it. So not only a liar but a gutless liar.
Your not pissing me off, your just a liar, that doesnt upset me at all. And no one is whining about any comments, I wouldnt have posted in this section if I was afraid of the big bad denizens of the SMDB pit.
When all else fails, and we a liar and our lies are exposed, just say fuck and troll a lot and turn tail. Bye liar.
If only I had a use for an extra testicle.
Yeah, some came to his defense, but overwhelmingly the defense was, “Cite, motherfucker?” In other words, people were asked to provide evidence for their claims.
Perhaps that sounds familiar to you.
Since Sage Rat used the word “evidence” first, claiming for it a definition I don’t much care for, I will herewith summarize the actual documents involved in support of today’s Washington Examiner article
Traffic tickets: These are all of the-what-some-have-grandiosely-called “police records.” They prove, almost conclusively, that the Hennemin County cops targeted Muslims something fierce. After the congresswoman married Mr. Elmi, Mr. Hirsi racked up 16 tickets (2 for speeding, the rest for things like “parking for over an hour in a congested area”) in 24 months. This demonstrates beyond a doubt that Hirsi…did not, upon his separation, immediately run down to the DMV to register a change of address. You know who else acted that way? Me, during my separation. Of course, I had good reasons. I was hoping for a reconciliation (wait: I guess Mr. Hirsi was too). We still had kids at home and I was there a lot, even after my ex remarried (gee: so did Hirsi and the congresswoman). And I had other expenses and wasn’t too fond of the DMV (Hmm). Of course, I’d have gotten that little errand done tout suite if I’d had any reason to want to protect some scheme, as in a sham marriage or some such. The congresswoman got two tickets too, for running a stop sign and an illegal right turn. Wouldn’t want to withhold a damning fact like that. Oh, there’s one more ticket here.
Marriage Application/Business License: (This is subject to revision, because I’m accepting what the St. Louis Post- Dispatch said about the B.L., but haven’t seen it).Lumping these together because they’re the other two documents where an address is shared. The Washington Examiner whiffs on this one by saying that it was the congresswoman’s and Mr. Elmi’s address: you need to put an address on a marriage certificate, but it need not be your residence, nor the one where you intend to live. In fact, given that the B.L. application was for a cafe/lounge, the building may not have been a residence at all. If it was, when the congresswoman divorced Mr. Hirsi, she may have moved there, and then Mr. Hirsi decided to open a business there, and gave up their old residence. Timeline fits that perfectly.
Divorce application/eviction notice: Supposedly the fact that he may have been in MN when the congresswoman filed for divorce saying she didn’t know where she was is incriminating. Oh, please. Mr. Elmi left, and went to ground, leaving the congresswoman with the impression he was going to the U.K., which, apparently, he eventually did. Hard to tell exactly: you can pay your rent in advance, and you can sublet, licitly or not, an apartment from someone who is leaving the country. This is even less meaningful than the other meaningless stuff.
Mr. Elmi’s application for citizenship: Oops. There apparently isn’t one. These people are just terrible at immigration scams.
Documents suggesting Mr. Elmi is the congresswoman’s brother: None. All of the nonsense blown up around a bunch of traffic tickets is entirely in the service of this one slur.
If the OP was titled “proof Rep. Omar committed fraud”, you would be correct. But it said only that new evidence was cited in yesterday’s MST article. The article linked to has a decent case that at least something weird, possibly illegal happened, and her response is basically, yeah its complicated, no ones business, not talking about it. We balk at Trump hiding things, would have rioted if Obama had not proven birth.
The Washington Examiner noted that local media reports also cast doubt on Omar and Hirsi breaking up. One of the most serious allegations against Omar is that she lied under the penalty of perjury during divorce proceedings that she did not know where Elmi was and had not contacted him since their divorce in 2011.
The Washington Examiner added:
She also said that she had no means of contacting him, and the district court judge wrote in the divorce decree that Elmi “has not signed a declaration of non-paternity as [Omar] has had no contact with him since before the child was conceived.” Thus the court granted her request to serve Elmi with divorce papers “by alternate means.” Once a week, for three weeks in a row during August and September of 2017, Omar published public summons to Elmi in a local newspaper, Finance and Commerce.
Contradicting this claim are images from Elmi’s social media account published by a Minnesota web outlet called Alpha News, which show Elmi with Ilwad on her day of birth.
The Daily Caller News Foundation reported:
[Omar] also claimed that her attempts to find [Elmi] include unsuccessfully searching on social media — but he has been on Twitter since 2012 and Facebook since 2007 and is also on LinkedIn and other platforms.
Lying on a sworn form is perjury and each charge carries five years in prison, according to Minnesota law. Questions have been raised about the accuracy of approximately six statements on the sworn form.
…Left Hand of Dorkness wasn’t responding to your OP. They were responding to the post of yours that they quoted.
Obama was hiding NOTHING. he ponied up his Hawaii bc to prove it.
Trump IS hiding something, which is why he will NEVER willingly show his tax returns.
Rep. Omar could clear this up greatly by showing HERS- she refuses, but insists Trump show his?
Final lasting point on this thread- we can be liberal, and love the idea of a Rep. Omar, a young female African immigrant, and still believe after reading the data that she may have committed a crime here, without impugning the character of all people like her, and without being thick, racist or misogynist. AOC is awesome and completely above reproach.
Omar has already corrected and paid fines for the issues with her tax returns, as quoted by your cite. Did YOU even read anything beyond the first sentence? Because your continued insistence that “now there’s something” in light of the nothingburger of an article says otherwise.
So we’ve pivoted from marrying her brother for immigration purposes and something something to lying. The spins, they hurt!
Helmut, you have the bad habit, admittedly essential to your argument, of name-checking a news source and then not providing links to your citations, or using quotation marks so someone can tell where, say, the Washington Examiner stops and you and the lunatic right-wing commentary begin. For example:
Like that, see? The WE article I cited (and provided a link to) didn’t say anything resembling that, and if it had such second-hand journalism would be worthless. I assume the digression about allegations of perjury is all you, since the WE would care that there are none from any reputable source.
Again, the article I cited and linked to says no such thing, but this seems about right pending another look at the divorce documents. Note however, that the claim she’s making makes the divorce a much longer and more difficult process than simply having him served, which, like the divorce itself, serves no purpose in any narrative the lunatics are offering. Up to this point in your post, you got zip.
So you dump the reputable source. This certainly did not come from the WE. Unless they lost their minds: Alpha News is emphatically nota reputable news source, or even a source of news. So don’t bother waiting around for them to produce the photo, if they do, it will be worthless.
Again, I don’t care that you don’t provide cites or links for worthless sources. But seriously, this claim is stupid no matter its provenance. This Mr. Elmi, not another one, is on Twitter? And that’s supposed to prove congresswoman Omar knew it, and knew his location with enough specificity to have him served? It doesn’t.
Yup, raised in bad faith by bigoted morons who admit they can’t count with exactitude to six. Bad faith, because there’s no slur in this mess that even makes sense connected with the other slurs. It’s just an excuse to keep the slurs going.
Obama did not need to “pony up” anything. It was already well-established factually that the man was born in the state of Hawaii, thus being a citizen of the United States at birth. The only bleating contrary to that well-established fact came from proponents of a racist whacked-out nut-job conspiracy theory. Oh, and the head whacked-out nut-job pushing that “theory”? Well, he’s the president now.
Speaking of Trump, that clown repeatedly promised to show his tax returns only to hedge and dodge when it came time to do so.
Fair point. It is plausible and in fact almost certain that Hirsi didn’t change his address on his driver’s license, given the 2009 business license.
Here is the business license:
The home address for Hirsi is the same on the business license as the home address for Omar/Elmi on the marriage license:
The marriage application is in February and the business license is given in May. Hirsi seems to think that he still lived with Omar, 3 months after she married another man.
Elmi’s address changes to living in Eden Prairie by September of that same year.
Unrelated to the previous, but apparently Omar’s sister started a new website called Grit Partners Consulting. It was created in January of this year:
Here is a portion of the HTML in the top page of the website:
The timestamp listed next to the same instagram handle as London Elmi converts to Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:29:53.873 AM.
I think my favorite part of this white knight thread was that the original thread was really to discuss whether Omar had cheated on her taxes by filing a joint married return with someone who may not have been her husband. Even Mr. DOOOOORK missed the point of the original thread.