Apple - Mac OS X need. Free program for png, gif, jpg, etc. editing?

Is there a free file editor that I can download to permit editing of png, gif, jpg etc. files? I’m not very familiar with the Mac, so if there is something that is part of Apple’s software that does this and may already be sitting on my computer, I’d like to know that too.

The only things I’ve been able to find are paint and draw, part of the AppleWorks package, and these two apps don’t seem to allow me to load these formats.

I find it hard to believe that there isn’t some basic editor out there, or provided by Apple. Can anyone point me in the right direction? If there is a program that would allow me to load just an existing png file, then edit and save it, that would be a great start. The more formats the better, but I’ll take what I can get.

Thanks!

I use GIMP for everything image-related. Free (as in beer), free (as in speech), and cross-platform. It also supports a really huge number of formats.

ETA: Link for downloading it is located here.

Is there a version that works with OS X 10.4.11?

I looked at the info on that page and it says that I need to have OS X 11. Is there a different version? This could be the answer for me if I can download/run it on my OS.

ETA: I see you added another link. I’ll give that a go.

Oh, forgot to mention. :smack:

It is not OS X 11 (there is no OS X 11)

It is X11, which is a completely different software package that GIMP for MacOS X needs to run. I don’t remember if Apple is including X11 in Mac OS or not. You may need to install it from here. Follow the instructions under “Installation.”

Basically, GIMP is a Linux-based program. But, also basically, X11 for Mac OS X (confusing, eh?) allows Linux-based programs to run in Mac OS X.

Oops, it seems that version is only for Mac OS X 10.5.x… :frowning:

Well, I just downloaded it and it didn’t work. So, I’m going to your new link and I’ll post my results.

This looks like what I need. I hope I can get it to run!

That is a misunderstanding: X11 is the X-Windows environment of OS X, not a version of OSX. It means that Gimp is not using the graphical user interface of OSX, but rather it’s Unix X-Windows. (I think the X-Windows environment is an optional install of OS X, you might have to explicitly install it from your OSX system DVD)

Also, you might want to go for gimp.app, the self-contained application bundle of the GNU Image Manipulation Program for OS X if you are not familiar with the X-Windows environment.

Yeah, you need X11 installed before GIMP will work. The link I gave above only works for MacOS X 10.5 or above, so it won’t work for you.

You can either load your OSX System DVD and install X11 from that, or you can download http://idt.lcc.gatech.edu/~cmartin9/files/X11Tiger.zip , unzip it, and install the two .pkg files included. Install the “SDK” one first, then the “User” one.

More info here.

ETA: I’m not the OP by any means, but I’m personally kind of wary of the list of known bugs associated with the .app version. I didn’t even know a .app version existed until now.

I’m a bit confused now. I am familiar with the X-Windows environment, but I’m not familiar with the Mac. Curse you Microsoft! I’ve been on a PC forever.

Here’s where I am. I went to to Seodoa’s second link, and found out exactly what he just posted. I need OS X 10.5

Any other suggestions?

Download the .zip file and install those two .pkg files. They are X-Windows for OS X 10.4

ETA: After that, GIMP should work.

GraphicConverter is shareware and can do a lot. It is a good, not great, image editor. It’s power is in reading many different formats and converting them (it’s original purpose). But GIMP and GraphicConverter are the two simplest and easiest to obtain solutions.

I’ll second GraphicConverter. Been using it for years.

For very basic manipulations (cropping, rescaling, color adjustment, rotation, flipping, etc.), you can use the Preview application, which is part of the basic OS X install. (Or, at least, you can do these things with the version of Preview that comes with 10.5. Not sure about the version that comes with 10.4.)

Not sure what sort of editing you need to do, but a lot of people aren’t aware that OS X’s built in Preview program allows you to crop, resize, and make various adjustments to color, contrast, sharpness, etc. Also, Google’s newly-released Picasa gives you some basic tools for cropping, straightening, adjusting color, and adding some built-in effects. You can also add text, retouch blemishes, and remove redeye.

Thanks all!

Thanks especially to seodoa… I downloaded the zip to get X11, and that allowed GIMP to run.

GIMP was exactly what I was looking for.

I’ll take a look at GraphicConverter also. I’m curious to see the differences between it and GIMP.

FTR, I did find those basic tools in Finder to allow flip, crop, resize, etc… but it wasn’t very useful. That functionality was as basic as it gets.

For anyone that needs to do what I did, follow seodoa’s instructions… worked with no problem.
One quick question unrelated to graphics, but related to the Mac. How do I see the list of programs currently installed on the computer and remove the ones I don’t need? I can’t seem to find the Mac equivalent to “add/remove programs” in windows.

Is there a good place on the web that helps a window-centric person like me to search on window functionality, and show the Mac equivalent?

SFP

Apple already thought of that:

Bam and bam. Not totally complete lists, but they are a start.

As for installed software. In MacOS X, all non-system software is installed in the “Applications” folder. To uninstall software, just drag it to the trash.

ETA: MacOS’ idea of .app bundles has always been a favorite of mine. It’s so much more intuitive, more elegant, and faster to just drag and drop (or select and hit ‘delete’) than to use a separate installer/uninstaller.

If you are using OSX, GraphicConverter should already be installed.

Eh? AFAIK, GraphicConverter is a product of Lemkesoft.

There is some software that is installed from a package file (.pkg) instead of as an app bundle. When you install this, you click on the .pkg file and an installer runs. I’m not sure how to uninstall such a package.

Edit: Link for beginners.

If you, as I, were looking for a simple image editor for the Mac, go for Seashore. It’s somewhere between MSPaint and the GIMP in terms of complexity and functionality.