Archimedes, Newton, or Einstein: who pulled off the biggest paradigm shift?

A.k.a. who’s the biggest genius?

I’m pop-science literate, but a humanities major at heart. Einstein, Newton and Archimedes are the three biggest science names that I can come up with – all of them rewriting scientific understanding of the world and how it works.

Which of them was the most impressive? Who had the greatest impact on scientific knowledge?

My instinct, based at least in part on Neil Stephenson books, is Isaac Newton, but I’d be interested in the opinions of people who know more about science than I do. And in opinions from people who know less about science than I do, because opinions are fun.

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Relativity was much more of a shift than Newton.

Newton observed and his conclusions were fairly self-evident (i.e., gravity).

Einstein came to conclusions that were not evident to anyone, and even now the concept of relativity is hard to grasp.

It did require a genius to see something as obvious as gravitation, but most of Newton’s work was on astrology and other pseudosciences. Einstein was wrong about his Unified Field Theory, and wasted too much time on it, but the work on the Grand Unified Theory and Thread Theory indicate that he was on the right track, just going about it wrong.

What about Copernicus/ While nothing changed the view of everything changed. From Geo centric to helio centric view of universe is an enormous change of perspective.
Otherwise Einstein, it set off science exploration and experiments that have continued for nearly a century.

Newton did far more than simply describe gravity; he set in place the idea that mathematical modeling of earthly events could describe the universe at large.

Einstein on the other hand kicked the footstool out from under the idea of a privileged frame of reference and linked time and space/matter and energy while giving Mach empirical evidence of atoms and brining a particle theory of light back into play.

I’d go for Newton then Einstein with Maxwell running a close 3rd.

When he’s done with it, may I borrow it?

I’m barely going to have time to read this thread, but I’ll borrow a book. Just don’t expect to see it again before 2015.

Newton figured out that the stars and planets are controlled by the same forces (gravity, etc ) that we see in our daily lives. That means that the entire universe is understandable by science. You don’t need God or mystical forces of alchemy.
So Newton’s revolution made it possible for the average(= uneducated) person to benefit from a huge paradigm shift–to understand that answers come from science, not the church. That was a revolution that affected everybody in society.

Einstein’s revolution was more difficult (and thus more impressive) as an exercise in pure thought.But it is meaningless to the average person.

So I vote for Newton.

I have to say Newton, because he was there at the right time. While certainly fantastic, I don’t think Einsteins revelations were any more suprising than Newtons, given the state of science at the time they occured. (both men in thier time)

He gave us a fundimental understanding of the nature of acceleration. It was obvious to NOBODY in Newton’s time that the correct discription of gravity was as an acceleration rather than a force.

He then invented, pretty much from whole cloth, an entire branch of mathematics to discribe this. (Calculus)

Then he invented the reflecting telescope (while making numerous advances to the science of optics in general) so that he could make accurate astronomical observations.

Then he worked out that gravitational accelration was actually NOT constant, but inversly proportional to the square of distance, again, something nobody prior to him had suspected…which finally provided a coherant explaination for the existance of tides.

I’m going to go with Archimedes. Unlike the others, he didn’t have the volume of work to build off of. No slight to any of them mind you, and I have to believe that except for Newton (who could have gotten his insomnia cured and thus discovered nookie and not had as much time to devote to science) were they to live in the 21st Century, we’d find they were about equal in intelligence.

I’d vote for Newton too, but has it ever been cleared up how much he and Leibniz knew of each others work on calculus?

Einstein may well have been the last individual to personally engineer a paradigm shift in physics. The quantum theory was a team effort, more or less, and I guess that the next one, whatever it may be, will not be the work of one person.

I’m glad to see upthread a shout-out for Maxwell, though.

I think it’s really hard to say who made the “biggest paradigm shift”. For most people, it is tempting to say Einstein, because his name and legacy is so huge in 20th Century physics; even people who barely know who Newton and Archimedes are can immediately recognize Einstein. However, it’s worthwhile to note that, while Einstein developed his theories outside the academic medium and essentially without reference to other work being done in the field, much of the details that went into Special Relativity were already developed by others (Lorentz, Poincaré), and there are some who contend that Einstein’s first wife, mathematician Mileva Marić, was responsible for much of the formalism, and possibly some of the ideas behind Special Relativity. This is entirely speculative–there are no notes or publications that substantiate this, but many of her contemporaries felt that she was materially responsible for some or much of the concepts behind SR based upon statements or relative competency, and Einstein ceeded his Nobel Prize money (won for his work on the Photoelectric Effect 'cause the Nobel Prize Committiee felt that Henri Poincaré deserved equal credit) to Marić due to a divorce agreement under which she was prohibited from making any further claim against the fruits of Einstein’s intellectual property.

The case for General Relativity is even more precarious; I daresay mathematicians who’ve studied the history would argue that David Hilbert and his students materially aided in the development and should be credited again for the formalism. GR is really “just” an extension of SR onto a topologically curved space (Chronos is probably going to have a stroke when he sees that statement) and not quite as fundamental a discovery as SR, nor one Einstein could have developed without the mathematical tools and methods devised by Hilbert, et al. In any case, Einstein’s work capped off about thirty years of anxiety, alternate theorizing, and argumentation about the obviously flawed notion of an objective spacetime plenum. He tied things together, but the individual components were all out there in the community.

To dismiss Newton’s observations and subsequent laws as “obvious” is at its least unfair to an extreme. Before Newton, explainations for the physical behavior of objects in motion was ad hoc and disjointed. Newton formulated all of classical mechanics as three simple laws that could readily be expressed mathematically. This was a masterstroke of deconstruction, but it would be unfair to say that Newton did it all on his own. He certainly drew from those around and before him. And should be be inclined to award too much foresight to Newton, it should be remembered that Newton’s nemisis and competitor for title of the inventor of differential calculus, Gottfried Leibniz, proposed (correctly, as it turns out) that action is space is relative to an inertial reference frame rather than against a static (objective) background as Newton contended, though it took a couple of centuries for this to be validated. He also foresaw, in a very general way, the indeterminacy of quantum mechanics and the ultimate unpredictability of complex systems in action as ergodic/chaos theory now asserts. In general, he was far more broadly accomplished than Newton, though most historians feel that Newton was the “better” physicist (again, possibly displaying a cultural and educational bias). Newton’s frequent crackpotism, most notably with respect to alchemy, is widely derided, but largely unfair, as alchemy was then the respected precursor to chemistry, and was no reflection on his work in mechanics and mathematics.

Archimedes was mostly wrong about a vast number of things, having been born long before modern mathematical and algebraic formalism, much less four-color textbooks and Mathematica, but he (and his students) are primarily responsible for the foundations of plane geometry, basic algebraic theory, and what we now refer to as “the scientific method” of making a hypothesis or model and correlating it to or falsifying by observation and experiment. Given the derth of information on Archimedes actual life and teachings its difficult to say how much of what is attributed to him is uniquely his work and how much is derivative or in conjunction with others, but more than any other natural philosopher the big Arch is responsible for modern scientific thinking and process.

Somebody mentioned James Clark Maxwell, who on the basis of applicability and uniqueness of his work may well be advanced to the head of the class. Although Maxwell’s most famous achievement–the equations of electromagnetism that bear his name (even though he didn’t actually formalize them as such)–is certainly paradigm-shifting–he did much other work in areas from thermodynamics to complex physical mechanisms to color photography. Maxwell was also one of the first to touch on aspects of special relativity (specifically, the invariance of spacetime with respect to electromagnetic waves), though he lacked both the mathematical tools and the body of evidence that overturned his lovely, but totally wrong regarding his “luminiferous aether” as a medium for conduction, at least in the form that he thought it worked.

If we can take an excursion from physics and into the more general realm of natural science, I’d nominate Charles Darwin as the crown prince of paradigm shifts in natural science. While people had been discussing for a couple of decades before the general notion of evolution (as opposed to static Biblical or otherwise Creationism, which was rapidly becoming more stinky than Limberger cheese left out on a hot day), Darwin proposed an alternate, surprisingly comprehensive, and largely unmodified-in-the-present-day theory of Natural Selection (or “Descent by Modification” as he referred to it), and put it on a secure, virtually unshakable foundation via his famous research on the Beagle and his more mundane, but highly critical research at home with barnacles, snails, and other mundane creatures of everyday life. The one piece that he was missing–the transmission of inherited characteristics via the genome–was integrated into selection theory shortly after his death, although the clincher had to wait until the technique of x-ray defraction came about and the discover by Crick and Watson (and the underrecognized Maurice Wilkins and Rosalind Franklin). It represented a shift away from the blind, totally inevidenced, dogmatic superstition of Christian (or otherwise) creationism to a rigorous, testable, falsifiable theory for how biology works, rather than a post hoc explaination of it.

Stranger

James Clerk Maxwell, damnit. I want some kind of edit function in the next release.

Another few points of note about Archimedes; he is held to be responsible for first formalizing the basic machine elements (wedge, screw, pulley, lever and fulcrum, et cetera) which make up all compound mechanisms. I fear I may have slighted him with regard to mathematics (he’s the first Western philosopher to apply mathematics to physical phenomena, and the first to understand the physical applications of series and sequences as a prerequisite to differential and integral calculus), and formed the basic theory of fluid behavior (Archimedes’ Prinicple, still used in every basic physics textbook today). His work in topology (using polyhedria and conics, and the sections thereof) made their way into the theories of the noted astronomers of the Renaissance all the way through Coprenicus, Galileo, and Kepler.

Stranger

I immediately thought of Darwin myself. I’d consider him and Darwin tied for the biggest shift. Newton dragging the nonterrestrial universe into the realm of the scientifically comprehensible and as something obedient to the same laws we follow on Earth was more . . . cosmic, but Darwin hit closer to home. That’s why people are still arguing about it, despite the overwhelming evidence for Darwinism. Whoever discovered quantum mechanics would be in there, if there had been a single or even central figure behind it.

Honestly though I don’t think there’s a clear cut winner; this is more of a “Top 5” list sort of thing.

Bah. Newton and Darwin.

Did Archimedes have much influence on contemporary mathematics or natural philosophy? I always saw him as a man ahead of his time, whose work would not be appreciated till later. I don’t think he could really be said to have intitiated a paradigm shift at the time. Most Natural philosophy continued to be based on Aristotelian reasoning.

I don’t think Newton or Einstein can be separated from the work of their contemporaries, but if we look at them as epitomies of the paradigm shifts of their time, I’d have to give the crown to Newton. He cemented and polished the scientific world view. Prior to Newton there really was no such thing as formal theoretical physics. Sure Kepler had overthrown the Aristotelian idea of the heavens as bodies moving in perfect circles and Gallileo came up with some important descriptive kinematics, but it was Newton who formulated the whole thing into a modern theory of gravity. As Stranger notes,The idea of science as explaining diverse phenomena as the result of simple universally applicable laws came into being in Newton’s time, though of course he wasn’t solely responsible for it.

Also, again as Stranger says, Newton’s ideas weren’t obvious at all. They only seem obvious to us because we live in an industrial world and we’ve been immersed in them since 7th grade science. Someone in the largely agrarian world of 17th century Europe would not find the abstract idea of inertia or F=ma obvious at all.

I’d say even chemistry and biology were affected by this new view. Compared to it Einstein and the other early 20th century scientists were merely editing and correcting a book that had already been written.