Architect, 59, arrested as prime suspect in Long Island serial killings

I didn’t see a thread here, and to me, it’s a big enough story, it belongs here. This was a story that a lot of people really didn’t think would ever be solved (and not all of the deaths are believed to have been done by the LISK).

So far, he’s been connected to three of them. This may put a lengthy and tragic story to rest, at long last.

Background for those of us who have zero idea about the case in the OP.

TL : DR - Not all of the bodies are believed to be the result of LISK, whoever he may be. The Asian man and the still-unidentified child are not. However, authorities just don’t know for sure.

In a document made to object to bail, the prosecution has listed a significant amount of evidence (much having to do with cell phone records):

They (supposedly) didn’t know who this guy was until recently; even if they were onto him for a year his wife made these trips 13 years ago

Do cell companies really keep records for that long? Financial records only need to be kept for seven years & I’d think cell phone shouldn’t keep records for any longer than that, if that long.

Does this indicate that they had looked into him many years ago & still had all that info in evidence?

Anything held on a computer [cloud? Whatever] has almost no physical size, and no reason not to keep it [heck, I still have random hard drives removed from during the replacement of computers of previous use past] I checked, and I have a ton of data lurking that I haven’t used or looked at in a decade. I have a total of 5 active email accounts and an additional 4 [on one of my email accounts, they are ‘throw away’ email accounts, when I don’t want to use one, I delete it and another one is autogenerated for me.

Honestly? If I wanted to fake my being somewhere like that, I could chuck my cellphone while still turned ‘on’ so it would ping towers into some long haul truckers cab if I could be certain of getting access to get it back [find a neighbor who might be doing a driving vacation? Anything to get that phone on a road trip past non-home towers =) ]

That doesn’t work for your wife’s phone.

You’d need to see how often she traveled but, unless she’s gone the vast majority of the time, it would be difficult for her to be out of the town on exactly the right days to be absent for 18 murders.

You’d need some concrete numbers but the statistics (I sense) are likely to land pretty close to a slam dunk.

It’s better to not rely on that alone, but add in any other reasonable evidence and you can probably safely convict the guy.

Lots of big businesses have very deliberate records retention rules. In many cases stuff is kept as long as required and not longer. From a businesses’ POV there is positive value to destroying stuff as soon as they can; once gone it can’t come back to bite them. It prevents expensive opposition lawyers forcing trawls through everything and anything looking for anything that can be spun as leaning towards guilt at something.

The PC as infinite packrat closet is a consumer move (I’m guilty too) not a business move.

Having said all that, cellphone records are definitely a kind of record that law enforcement would like mobile providers to keep forever. Do they? Are they required by some law to do so? I have no clue.

Here is an interview with the suspect, recorded (I think) 1.5 years ago. He comes off as very normal.

Everybody seems normal, till you get to know them.

Yes, just ask the folks in Wichita who were terrorized by Dennis Rader. He was, among other things. president of his church congregation.

If he hadn’t gone to prison for that, he probably would have for using the church collection plate as his personal ATM. I never heard how much they were able to pin on him, but it did pale in comparison to what else he did.

John Gacy lived not too far from my hometown back in the day. Member of the Jaycees there, and managed two KFC restaurant franchises. He did get arrested on molestation or buggery charges while living there but he was fairly well connected or plugged in and somehow that was swept under the table. This was in the 1960s. Then he moved to Chicago and the rest, as they say, is history.

Ted Bundy was said to be quite friendly and charismatic when he needed to be. He even manned the phones for a suicide hotline while attending school in Seattle.

Actually, Gacy’s molestation victim was the son of a local politician - AND his name was used in the media, which I’m sure led to his suicide in the 1990s.

I recently read this book. Many of Gacy’s victims were achievers from stable families, but many, especially the earliest ones, were not. Some of them were gay themselves (one of them openly so at a time when that was almost unheard-of, especially for a teenager) and others weren’t gay but they were willing to do X, Y, or Z if they were paid.

Gacy wasn’t sent to prison or anything like that, where he belonged is what I’m getting at. Who was the politician?

I always wondered if our family ever crossed paths. We didn’t get a lot of fast foods in those days, but if Gacy ran two KFC franchises it wouldn’t have been unusual to run into him running the register or something like that.

The boy was the son and namesake of fellow Jaycee and Iowa state representative Donald Voorhees. Gacy was sentenced to something like 10 years, but got out in about 18 months due to good behavior.

OK, thanks. It’s all coming back to me now.

The descriptions of Heuermann’s accomplishments were remarkably vague. Is it possible that the article was written by an AI Chat Bot?

Smells like it, don’t it?

CNN is making a distinction so I’m guessing there is one; anyone know what it is? If you asked me, a sex worker who advertised on Craigslist was an escort which is also synonymous with prostitute but they’re specifically calling one of them out with a different term.