Are Asians Bad Drivers?

A fair number of Asian countries have abnormally high accident rates due to a number of factors: loose or non-existent enforcement of traffic laws, a widespread belief that drinking improves your driving, a much higher percentage of inexperienced drivers, bad roads, and inadequate maintenance.

In the Philippines, for example, one sees billboards claiming that “Lone Star Light” is the best ale for driving. Drivers’ licenses are required, but many, if not most, drivers do not have them due to an overly bureaucratic system for obtaining new licenses. Driving schools offer courses advertising “Learn to Drive in Three Days.” Many new drivers have never even been in a car before and thus have no innate experience with such things as stopping distance or visibility. Asian obsessions with ‘losing face’ means a greater reluctance to admit mistakes and a greater propensity to refuse to yield right of way.

Widespread use of jeepneys, tricycles, kuligligs, and other odd or homemade vehicles means more breakdowns and failures. These are often used for public transportation, badly overloaded with people riding on the roofs and standing on the fenders. It is said that the maximum number of people allowed to ride in a jeepney is “Just one more.”

The people are mostly poor, so they skimp on maintenance. They also do a lot of makeshift repairs of questionable safety. Retreads are widely used.

Government corruption means that the road in front of your house may be paved or unpaved depending on who you voted for in the last election. Thus a street may be a patchwork of paved and unpaved sections. There may be no lines painted on roads, not even on national highways. The roads are mostly narrow, windy, and may be overgrown with brush and trees.

People in rural areas regard the road in front of their house as belonging to them. They will use the road to dry rice and corn, hold picnics, play basketball, etc. Dogs, children, cattle and fowl wander the roads freely. In more urban areas, people will set up fruit stands and the like in the middle of the road.

Banditry and low level insurrection are a problem as well. Though these do not count as actual ‘accidents,’ a number of people are killed every year by getting shot. Related to this is a certain amount of vigilantism, where enraged farmers will drag you from your car and beat you to death because you ran over their chicken. Local police will actually tell you to flee the scene of an accident and instead check in at the local police station for your own safety.

Few people will obey traffic signs and staying in your lane is highly optional. At railroad crossings, for example, people will attempt to pass you while you are waiting for a train, but then they have to stop because there is a train. So when the crossing gate goes back up, all lanes are filled in both directions with vehicles, none of them willing to relinquish right of way (as that would cause loss of face).

Nearly all of these problems are symptomatic of countries that are just becoming used to motor vehicles. They are greatly mitigated by experience and increasing wealth.

I don’t think accidents and tickets are enough to indicate whether a race is a good driver or not. If you’re in the left lane driving 55 mph in a 70 mph zone, it’s unlikely that you will get into an accident, but you’re still a bad driver. If you don’t believe in yielding right of way, a good driver will avoid killing you, but you’re still a bad driver. Stopping in the traffic lane instead of getting off of the road makes you a bad driver. If you use a turn signal as an indication of what you’re doing instead of what you’re requesting, you’re a bad driver. And if you never turn your head, ever, you’re a bad driver.

The “myth” isn’t borne of our population at large reading accident reports. It’s borne of simple observation.

Here in China we have excellent roads and most cars are well maintained (poor people don’t have cars like they do in India and Detroit). Yet they’re universally bad drivers.

Here’s something to consider: Chinese are bad walkers. Everything I described above about cars goes for how they walk, too. I’m constantly in pedestrian accidents because they have no friggin’ clue about spacial awareness.

Obviously this isn’t a race thing, per se, but a cultural issue.

I’m going to throw this out with some caution, aware that it’s probably selective and subject to confirmation bias… but I will stand by my basic observation.

When I see a car driving in a particular erratic manner - short bursts of very precise driving separated by erratic, unpredictable changes - I am fairly sure the driver will turn out to be Asian, probably 40-50ish (but not always). It’s not “bad driving” per se - it’s a peculiar form of overcontrolling, perhaps an attempt to drive very precisely while having something of the spatial awareness issues Balthisar mentioned.

A typical pattern is drive…speed up 10 MPH…drive…snap to the left side of the lane…drive…slow down a significant amount…drive…speed up again…drive…snap to the right side of the lane (repeat, with variations). Very sharp, precise changes that make no sense and seem to have no correlation to other traffic changes. When I can catch up, the driver always turns out to be Asian, and often middle-aged.

I don’t have an explanation. I don’t mean the slightest racist implication. But I have observed this for 40 years of driving, and can’t list many exceptions (that is, this driving pattern with a non-Asian driver). All subjectivity, confirmation bias, etc. conceded - but it’s statistically significant in my view.

I don’t know but based on those videos all over youtube, I’d be pretty terrified to drive in Russia.

Having driven all over the world I would say Korean and possibly German drivers are the only known exception to the rule that everybody outside the united states is a terrible driver. I believe it stems from cultural attitudes that no one is going to tell me how to drive combined with cops who don’t care to enforce laws.

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When people say “Asians,” I don’t think that Filipinos are among those nationalities they would name as examples. Several of the things in the OP imply that the examples are from the Philippines, correct me if I am wrong. I don’t know if other countries with scary driving situations (South Asian subcontinent) get the stereotype as well, except maybe cab drivers, in which case the stereotype is hyper-aggressive and not oblivious.

Bolding mine. Amend to “outside the English-speaking world” - I don’t think there are any negative stereotypes in the US about Canadian, British, Australian drivers. Hell some might say that they drive better, or at least the first two.

I thought being Asian is based on their appearance and Filipinos look Asian. If there was a white guy who lived in China all of their life I’d have trouble calling them “Asian”.

The physiognomy of Asians on the continent are not the same, and certainly very different from the Philippines. Many Filipinos might have Chinese ancestry, but they still often look quite different and cultural stereotypes are different (sometimes opposite). Granted China is a big place and stereotypes may be based on one part (WAG Guangzhou mostly?) And as far as naming say the first 5 Asian cultures that come to mind, most people would name others first I’ll wager.

As an Asian who’s lived in Asia for quite a few years:
I have noticed Asians in Asia to be pretty bad drivers, but I would attribute that more to regulations (or lack of regulations) and what some people call a *chabuduo *culture - (*chabuduo *means “more or less” or “good enough”). Taxi drivers sometimes drive like crazy. Oh, and don’t get me started on the topic of the thousands of mopeds.

In China you have some drivers who hurtle along the roads at breakneck speeds and honk their horns hundreds of times in a few hours. (No exaggeration; another passenger and I were actually tallying up the honks.) Mainly it’s because China is still a Wild West sort of country where there often is relatively little rule or order in rural driving or in some of the lesser-developed areas.

I think Asians in the US or Canada, on the other hand, are as good drivers as anyone else, and it’s because of a steadier, calmer driving culture if you will (yes, the US driving culture can still be described as calm compared to China’s!) Asian drivers in Western Europe are probably the same.

Actually, I found driving in the US and Canada very irritating. Especially in more rural areas, where everything happens at a snails pace. People coming to almost a full stop on a main road, before indicating that they are intending to leave said road. It seemed like every second car is operated by someone who is doing his/her nails, texting, reading the newspaper. And it wasn’t just me, I was with a group of fellow Dutchmen and we shared this observation. We were happy to get into Boston and New York City, because people finally seemed focused on actually driving.

Just to put that lack of “negative” stereotypes into context. Over here the general belief is that it is ridiculously easy to get a license in the US. In Holland a driving license is an investment of a few thousand euros with lessons and most people failing at least one exam.

In Thailand, drivers figure nothing can happen to you no matter what as long as you have the proper Buddhist amulets hanging from the rear-view mirror.

Why, yes, there are a lot of accidents here. Why do you ask?

I’ve often thought it might be a factor of learning how to drive at a late age, as well as not being used to American traffic style. We have 10 times the cars per person as many Asian countries, so it’s not unlikely that driving is a new experience for many who come here as adults/young adults. The people I’ve know who didn’t start driving at an early age are kinda terrifying.

Filipinos are Asian. The vast majority are of Chinese ancestry. The Philippines is generally regarded as being part of Asia. The Filipinos themselves claim to be Asian. A significant percentage of the ‘Chinese’ drivers in the US are, in fact, Filipino.

The Philippines is certainly considered part of Asia by everyone else in Asia. It’s part of Southeast Asia. In fact, it is one of the 10 members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) and one of the founding members at that. The suggestion that the Philippines is NOT part of Asia is bizarre.

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The Chinese people living in Australia bring those exact habits with them. Many seem to have no concept that there are other people on the road with them, so they can drive way under the speed limit and, in back streets often stop in the middle of the road while they decide on the next move.

Over cautious, very deliberate and utterly lacking in spatial awareness. they may have less accidents but by god I reckon they cause a few.

So is this confirmation that Boston is not in the United States?

Driving is one of those things were most people think they’re excellent drivers despite solid scientific evidence to the contrary. I had one neighbor who was having his license confiscated. It was so unfair since he was such a great driver. Sure, he had over a dozen accidents in the few years he had a license, but it was always the other person’s fault. Yes, he had tickets for running stop signs, going through red lights, for not yielding the right-of-way, speeding, but that doesn’t mean he was a bad driver!