If the determinant is what you call it when you ask for one, then an ice cream sandwich is a sandwich.
Uh, yeah. . .so was I. :smack: Clearly, I’m humor-impaired; or am I? ::waggles eyebrows significantly::
This is one of the funnier threads to come along. I’m not sure that it’s peculiar to the Dope to have a hot dog thread go to three pages (and counting), but it seems wonderfully unusual to me. And with no mention of ketchup!
I vote that an ice cream sandwich is a sandwich.
I’ve been driving myself crazy for the past 30 minutes trying to think of the thread we did a few weeks/months back that was almost exactly like this. Food item, poll was split 50/50, semantics, etc.
I have faith that someone will be along to set me straight.
Well then so is an open-faced sandwich, which you can’t even pick up without getting some seriously astonished looks.
Good guess.
Oh, you did NOT just go there…
(because it is clearly acceptable)
There was a thread I started a year ago: What do you prefer - Italian or Mexican food which, like this one, was also surprisingly 50/50. But I don’t recall much arguing of semantics, so that’s likely not it.
This one?
theR’s post is going to be the ultimate turning point, here. This isn’t a question of labelling as regards a single dish-species, this is a major question of culinary cladistics.
Dish-genus “hot dog on a bun” is clearly different from dish-genus “lunchmeat-between-slices-of-bread,” but we have to ask how far back the divergence goes. The argument, as I see it, is whether these two genuses both fall under the family “sandwich” or whether the hot dog falls under a different family.
Or perhaps “sandwich” should describe a whole order? Or even a class?
I’m afraid we’ve got some work ahead of us, folks. I think we need to collect some holotypes.
I have had people offer me a ‘hot dog’ and then serve me a real hot dog sandwich when I wasn’t paying attention to the horror that they were really proposing. That is, they either folded a piece of regular bread (Wonder Bread for example) in half to make a crude bun or just put one or two hot dogs between two pieces of bread (wheat bread in one case). Granted, that creates an actual ‘hot dog sandwich’ but it is also nasty as shit too. I tried to eat it but couldn’t because you just get a glop of ketchup saturated bread transmogrifying into one of the worst food creations I can imagine.
What I am saying is that it is possible to create a real ‘hot dog sandwich’ but give it a try with lots of toppings and see if you want to repeat that experiment. I will stick with the tried and true classic hot dog and its proprietary buns specially made for the purpose. Those are NOT sandwiches because hot dog sandwiches are disgusting.
That’s the one. Are Reese’s cups a candy bar?
Good times.
FWIW in old movies they often will say “Hamburger Sandwiches”. That was what they were called but the name shrunk over time.
Pizzas were ‘pies’ too. I am sorry, I am not buying it. People were just really ignorant and unsophisticated about food in general throughout most of early to mid 20th century America.
Also, open faced ‘sandwiches’ are a contradictory abomination. I don’t allow oxymorons in my house. Some people abuse and misuse food terms in ways that would result in a jail sentence if they were done to people. Please don’t treat your food that way.
In Australia, a sanga (sausage sandwich) is a barbecued (grilled) sausage, placed diagonally across a piece of fluffy white bread slathered in marg (margarine) and doused liberally in tomato sauce (ketchup) or barbecue sauce (not BBQ sauce) if you’re a heathen, with fried (grilled) onions on top if you’re being fancy.
A sanga is a sandwich, a hot dog is not.
You guys slather your sausages in margarine? (I’m deliberately avoiding the ketchup bit.) Well, I think you’ve revoked any say on the matter. 
(Actually, that does sound pretty tasty. I’m not sold on the margarine, but I’m not going to say “no” to one, if offered. 
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“an emetic” is the only proper finish to that sentence.
No, no, no! History must remain forever sacrosanct: veoh
Excellent! I almost tried to find that video to make the point better myself!
To bring up a point on the first page: if a hot dog is a sandwich, then why is a soft taco not?