Are microwave ovens banned in Russia?

Better, go old-school and rant about flouridation. Got to protect our Purity Of Essence, after all.

Of course, it’s unlikely they’ll appreciate the classics, so best of all is to find something the individual likes (but you don’t), for instance diet cola, and make that the center of your rants. “I know! And have you heard about the carbonated water thing”. After a few conversations, you can start asking them “Are you still drinking carbonated stuff?”.

Eventually, every time they bring up microwaves (or anything else), you can just say condescendingly “Oh, sure, you’re worried about microwaves, but you still drink that poison-water? Yeah, right.”

Er, US patents don’t actually prove anything, Americans still believe that Thomas Edison invented the incandescent light bulb (and the British say it was Thomas Swan and the Germans disagree with both).

That said, there is no actual evidence disproving Spencer’s claim and no patents elsewhere. It certainly wasn’t Nazi Germany.

I’m dubious of the radiation/nuking thing.

I think it was just the quick blast effect, sort of like a nuclear explosion. That’s the feel I got from it. Press a button, kablam! you have a fried whatever.

When Rush came out with their Power Windows video, there was a big blast of lights/explosion/something and one of my witty friends quipped “I thought they got nuked!”

A few years ago, my mother was hospitalized and the family was gathered around her bed to learn that she was getting a pacemaker. It was all very solemn until I asked if I could have her microwave.

She still has it so I guess her doctors weren’t too worried.

Not only legal, but available for sale online!

LMGTFU, Comrade

I am in no way condemning microwaves or the use of plastics therein, but all plastics have a certain “extractables/leachables” profile, and adding heat absolutely increases the quantity of these chemicals released into the food. In my line of work, pharmaceutical development, we spend a lot of effort making sure that our containers dont contaminate our products, especially when they sit for long periods of time. As far as i know, the requirements for food are much less stringent, and so i dont think we have good profiles for all the different plastics that end up in a microwave. Add to that that the saran wrap people have no idea what you will put into contact with their product (acids, oils, alcohols, etc) and i am confident that we are pulling out a fair number of undesireable compounds. How much and how bad they are is probably noy well known. That said, i am also confident the risk is fairly low. But thats just an assumption on my part.

For “microwave safe” plastic it needs to leech less than what is considered an acceptable amount of acceptable things into the food at the temperature it is expected to reach. I’m no expert on the subject but I’m pretty sure in the USA at least the FDA requires those who advertise plastic for use in microwaves to demonstrate that it falls within acceptable levels of acceptable things leeching into the food, not that it doesn’t leech any trace amount of anything.

FastPassenger, please send these links to your sister and let us know her response. I think we all know she won’t change her mind, but I’m very curious how she’ll explain these links. My first guess is she’ll deny these are from Russia, and then the next excuse will be that although the pages are hosted in Russia, they are being sold only to customers not in Russia.

Shit, I didn’t realize this a zombie thread.

No kidding?

My link still works, but note that the cheapest oven is now 2,300 rubles, instead of 1,445. That’s zombieflation for you.

My grandmother made wonderful coffee cakes and she must have learned to bake in Russia, so they must have had some kind of ovens. She cane to the US around 1900.

If she’s anti MW ovens she’s probably anti-vaxx, anti cell-phone, anti fluoridation etc. so you’d be stoking the fire.

Try the correlation between the sale of organic food and the diagnoses of autism. It’s about 0.98 and in her unscientific mind should mean that organic food causes autism. It doesn’t, scientists have other explanations, but see if a non-scientist can argue that away and then apply her arguments to MW ovens.

That’s not how the real world works, Your Royal Majesty.

It’s how the portion of the Real World I pay attention to works.

On a related note, are microwaves banned in Zombieland?

You do know I was mostly joking, right? I though my inclusion of the “Your Royal Majesty” was a dead giveaway.

The not “mostly” part is that modern news coverage and political punditry/sniping does NOT seem to work on, “Person X makes claim about person Y, person X provides evidence of claim against/about person Y.” It seems that person X makes claim about person Y, and then person Y has to disprove claim.