Well, it has become more and more tangled, especially with Dex and Gfactor’s responses. The Giraffe slash Hitler thing is apparently being handled by PM, and Stream’s question has been answered — namely, that moderators CAN cross borders to moderate in other forums, but are resistant to do so, especially in the Pit.
I have to say that I’ve criticized Dex lately (somewhere, I don’t know, it’s all a blur) but in THIS thread, he has handled himself pretty well considering. He still won’t admit to any biases, but he did cite cases in which he might be lenient in one but strict in another. And it had to do with the circumstances involving the poster, not with his like or dislike of the poster, which is good.
So at this stage, I’d say Stream should take his answer and be done with it.
Carol Stream, if the link was so objectionable why didn’t you report it when you first saw it? Can you any provide evidence that bad links of that type are routinely punished?
I’ve never seen anyone punished over a link here, at worst the link is broken or removed. Maybe I’ve just dodged all the link Inquisition threads. Nor I have seen you pop up and complain in any of those other threads, I did see. It looks like to me that you just wanted that poster punished because you’re hostile to their views.
These insults have been “allowed” because I was busy with Real Life and have not been on the boards all day.
Now, GODDAM IT PAY ATTENTION!
This is ATMB. This is NOT the Pit. These personal insults are OUT OF PLACE here.
Giraffe: You cannot get away here with Pit actions. This is NOT the Pit. When I called you on the Hitler comment for insulting the mods, your defense is that it’s not insulting the mods, it’s insulting Carol Stream?
So, your “defense” just makes the argument stronger that I was right in admonishing you in the first place. And now, you get a second one for directly insulting another poster. Neither comment are appropriate for ATMB. And, because of your past history, when you pull a stunt like that, you set the tone for others to leap in on Carol. It stops NOW.
Now, COOL IT. When next I read this thread, if there are continued insults (however disgusised) and snide comments, I will start issuing warnings.
Why? On the assumption that posters are incapable of remembering what forum they’re in? Or on the assumption that they can do that, but just can’t control themselves? Or on the assumption that they can do both, but just don’t care?
First of all, kudos and accolades to Dex for clamping down on the insults (both direct and disguised) against Stream. Aside from being out of place, as he pointed out, they make the thread harder to read.
I could be wrong, but I believe it has been established that personal insults of the mods or admins qua mods or admins have been stricken from the board altogether. In other words, even moving mod complaints back to the Pit would not entitle us to insult them personally with respect to their mod and admin duties. Now, insulting them in the Pit as posters is, I believe, still allowed.
(Which is one reason why it is so very important for them to indicate how they are posting: as mods/admins or as posters.)
We are allowed to complain about mod actions. But our complaints must go here in ATMB. And they must be civil. We can say, for example, “Would you please stop closing threads just so you can have the last word?”. But we cannot say, “What the hell is stuck up your ass that makes you close threads just so you can have the last word?”.
Again, that is only my understanding, and someone will be along shortly to correct me if I’m wrong.