Are muslim fundamentalism & conservative politics two sides of the same revolution

[Evil_Captor]

@John Mace

Don’t forget the gucks. The gucks are what tie the whole thing together. After all, without the gucks you’d only have whacked out religious fanatics and evil corporate robber barons. Oh, and Diebold, too, to fix the elections. That’s why the Democrats can’t win-- they’re up against the fundies, the oligarchs, the gucks and Diebold. Everyone knows that-- it’s self evident.

Thank you for that authentic bit of political gibberish, John. If you feel that my conclusions are false, or my premises are wrong, perhaps you could instruct me and those so foolish as to agree with me. I wait with bated breath (I’m using worms today!)

[saoirse]

I would just add Bruce Lawrence’s Defenders of God to the reading list here. Lawrence origianlly laid out the case that fundamentalism is a reaction to modernism. Armstrong covered much of the same ground.

[betenoir]

@John Mace

But the OP is linking Muslim fundamentalism and conservative politics, not Muslim fundamentalism and Chrstian fundamentalism.

Point taken. But as there IS a signifigent overlap between far right politics and (generally) fundamentalist Christianity, I think it’s more than relavent.

[John_Mace]

@betenoir

… there IS a signifigent overlap between far right politics and (generally) fundamentalist Christianity…

Actually, there isn’t. But you need to hold the goalposts steady if we’re going to debate. We went from “conservative” to “Christian fundamentalism” to “far right politics”. Each of those is quite distinct.

[SteveG1]

@John Mace

Don’t forget the gucks. The gucks are what tie the whole thing together. After all, without the gucks you’d only have whacked out religious fanatics and evil corporate robber barons. Oh, and Diebold, too, to fix the elections. That’s why the Democrats can’t win-- they’re up against the fundies, the oligarchs, the gucks and Diebold. Everyone knows that-- it’s self evident.

I’ll probably get laughed at, but what is a guck? I never heard that one before.

[John_Mace]

Gucks.

No such thing as a stupid question.

[Rashak_Mani]

The OP is close…

Both sides seem to be using the spotlight to gain more recruits and support for their causes. Rallying calls in a way. Both seem to view the world as black and white too.

[UnwrittenNocturne]

@Wesley Clark

First and foremost american conservatives do not support military action against civilians, which alone is a gigantic gap between the two groups.

Almost as an aside to this, I have heard self-identified conservatives in this country say that they have no problem with US forces targeting civilians. Pretty much that Muslims deserve to die.

I would not say that this is the majority view among conservatives here, but it does exist. Nor would I say that it is the majority attitude among conservative/fundie Muslims.

But it does exist.

[Princhester]

This OP needs to be grounded, given an important tweak and then put back out on the runway to take off anew.

The OP is never going to fly while one wing is Muslim Fundamentalist and the other is American Conservative.

American Conservative is a huge amorphous mass, large parts of which don’t provide any symmetry to the wing on the other side at all.

This whole thing is going to go into an unrecoverable spin unless American Conservative is unbolted and replaced with Christian Fundamentalist.

Then this baby will soar.

[SteveG1]

@John Mace

Gucks.

No such thing as a stupid question.

“Slightly to the right” on the keyboard. Thanks!