Just because a college practices this type of racial discrimination does that mean that anyone at that college desires to do so. Few people know this, but the impetus for this sort of thing often comes from the agencies that accredit colleges and universities. While I was an undergrad at Harvey Mudd College, we were evaluated by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges, and they concluded that we were insufficiently diverse, and that women and minority students frequently felt “uncomfortable” on campus. There conclusion, though not stated in so many words, was that we’d better start hiring more women and minorities or else. Since being unaccredited is not an option for a serious school, we had to comply. Since the accrediting associations are not government agencies or corporations (they are non-profits), taking them to court for racial discrimination would be problematic.
No?
You’re probably absolutely right. Here it’s Southeastern Association of Colleges & Schools (SACS) and they are loopy as hell, and diversity is less an actual goal I think than some form of organizational Tourettes that they feel compelled to work into every sentence. Ironically I think it has had in some ways the exact opposite effect: many students have become sick and tired of the D word (not of diversity itself, but of having it used constantly as if they all came to this campus from a Klan meeting or Black Panther luau).
I guess if you don’t like to read, then reading and writing on a message board makes perfect sense.
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That sucks. (Having higher education hurt by a general economic downturn also sucks but that’s not really the topic of the thread.) Racism is wrong in all circumstances.
All I can offer is that in an ideal world nobody would be judged by their race. But unfortunately, we don’t live in that ideal world. In the real world we live in, racism exists. Not everybody is a racist but some people are.
So regretably sometimes the only way you can fight racism is by forcing people to be non-racist. Don’t give them any other option. Some people, if given the choice, would always pick the white applicant. So you have to force the decision by restricting the choices to only black applicants. That’s not fair to the white applicants but the other system often wasn’t fair to the black applicants.
BTW, to answer the question posed in the thread title, yes, openly gay narcoleptic atheists from Alabama ARE the majority where I live, and where most of us live as far as I can determine. How else to explain the fact that nobody clamors for an “Ask the Openly Gay Narcoleptic Atheist From Alabama” thread? We are obviously up to HERE with information about the breed.
'Course, around here, most of them are CPAs and anaesthesiologists. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a reference librarian among the local crop.
“Organisational Tourettes”.
Love it.
Consider it stolen.
Many many years ago (well, only 9, but it seems like a lifetime) the following ad appeared in the local newspaper, in Littletown, Spain, where there were many factories but only one from the Chemical sector:
"Laboratory technicians wanted for chemical factory in Littletown.
2 positions, full time, temporary contracts with the possibility of becoming permanent. Looking for people with vocational degrees or higher. The degree doesn’t have to be in QC, Chemistry or related fields, although that will be valued."
The positions were newly created; they would (and did) become permanent once the head office approved them. They were looking for the kind of person their existing week-shift techs were: guys with VDs. They got 14 CVs, all from women with Bachelors in scientific disciplines. The two people hired had degrees in Chem and ChemEng. A new warehouse guy joined the factory in the same date and he happened to be black, a fact which had the “peons” in stitches when a letter arrived from the main office in the USA bemoaning the lack of diversity in our factories and saying that “we, as a company, need to hire more African-Americans” (‘does he count? He’s African-African!’ ‘figure he does, they just mean Black really’) “and women:” we’d gotten three out of three in one day!
Do you think Mr DIED would have considered those 14 CVs “not diverse enough”? I mean, there wasn’t anybody from the Letters or Arts tracks!
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Did I read that correctly? Please tell me that there’s a Spanish-language term with the acronym VD, that doesn’t mean Venereal Disease.
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Dude, they are so diversity-crazy the actually hunting for guys with VD’s. ( They’ve got as 3% quota for that)
VD = Vocational Degree
[extreme sarcasm]
Here’s how it works: Outcome-based Reality (=“to Hell with what’s fair, we want ours!”). If the result is exactly the same as if it were the product of deliberate discrimination, than effectively it IS deliberate discrimination.
So it just doesn’t matter if out of twenty applicants for a position fifteen are white males, the remaining five women and minorities, and the white males were the top 2/3rds ranked by qualification. If they hire a white male, it’s discrimination.
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well, to put a slightly different perspective on it -
I know it is frustrating, but just because a job is posted does not mean it will be filled by the first qualified applicant to show up.
When there are lots of applicants, the hiring manager can be picky, and pay attention to fulfilling those vague statistical programs from above.
Just wondering - can you simply teach research methods in your off hours in the library by posting a notice on the campus bulletin boards (do they still have those?)? It could be rewarding to cut out the middleman…
What Ají, who was paying attention, said. The Spanish acronym would be FP(1), Formación Profesional (de nivel 1). The three midweek guys had Vocational Degrees obtained at age 17-18 in Electricity (Paco), Office Administration (Chiqui) and Quality Assurance (Edu).
There’s a second tier for vocational degrees (FP2) which can give access to college (technical majors); you can’t enter college with an FP1.