Are pets slaves?

Then set aside your guilty feelings, your dog wants to live with you.

How can I when I know that they were bred that way for me? Something about that just doesn’t seem right (or maybe I’m just over thinking it).

I mean, is it really ethical to just keep breeding these animals just to suit ourselves? I mean we don’t need them to live, so why do we keep doing it? The end result is an animal that can’t surivive without us but we can without it, something about that just seems wrong though.

I know people who have ethical misgivings about breeding varieties of animals that have traits that are contrary to survival.

Apparently, there’s a fad for a breed of cat with very short legs. They look so cute…but one of the synonyms for cute is “helpless,” and the short legs make the cats inept at most ordinary survival-enhancing behaviors. They’re rotten hunters.

The thing is, it’s pointless to use human-societal language like “slavery” or “genocide” or the like in a discussion of animal-breeding ethics. The situation has to be assessed on its own, actual basis, and not on the basis of a comparison with something that it doesn’t truly relate to.

For instance, there aren’t any animal CEOs of Fortune 500 Corporations. This is an arrant violation of the principle of Equal Opportunity. Until Ford or Monsanto is run by a dog, cat, or goldfish, I recommend we all engage in a boycott.

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Yes sure, Pugs and English boxers are two examples, they have respiratory problems their whole life, I would never choose to get one. In general pure breeds are going to have more health problems. Personally I choose to adopt animals from a rescue centre, they are usually mixed breed, much healthier than pure breeds and there is no ethical dilemma about supporting puppy mills ( or the feline equivalent)

I guess there is a difference between the two situations then.

You are right. I was leafing through what he linked on Manson, and the guy really has to be cracked to believe anything like that.

that’s a different discussion. It’s not slavery though, it’s something much more unethical.

So why don’t you just let your dogs go out the door and not allow them to come back in? Let them make that choice? :dubious:

They just come right back, but I can’t do that. I’d always worry about them.

So they come right back on their own, right? You don’t have to whip the shit out of them, threaten to sell them off to the house down the block, have another dog rape them, etc?

:dubious:

No. They just sniff around, they don’t go past the side walk. After a while they come back in.

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Those poor oppressed slaves! When will a hero rise up to free them? Why are not pet owners strung up on gibblets to entertain their own crows?

But isn’t it cruel to leave them at home alone? They miss people terribly.

Not that terribly. My dog’s happy to see me when I come home, but he doesn’t show any anxiety when I leave. I’m sure he just lies around in the corner and takes a nap, just like he does most of the day when I’m home.

Meh. I take our three dogs to work with me every day. A large part of the day is spent napping.

ETA: just to be clear, they are the ones napping.

Well now let’s see.
My three rescue mutts days are spent sleeping , eating ,playing or in the case of the newest addition ,chewing on things she finds fun to chew on ,but really annoys me when I have to clean a pile of slobbery material that started the day as a hair brush or a house slipper My days are spent acquiring the ’ where with all 'to purchase the 50 pound bag of Kibbles, the bag of bacon treats the three consume per month. Not to mention the price of a visit to the doggie doctor that isn’t covered by Obama care and those visits aren’t cheap .
I’m thinking it is me who may be the one ‘slaving’ away to keep my pets in the manner they have become accustom to .
So in answer to the query ‘are pets slaves’ , either it is a trick question or the OP has some pretty confused friends with strange ideas on the topic of pets /slavery .

True. Not all dogs are sad when their owners leave, and that’s something you can help train them with anyway.

But isn’t it a “mockery of nature” for these pets to exist.

How many thousands of years of nature does it take for it to cease being a mockery?

To me the notion seems off, like how do you determine what is a mockery of nature?