Are some people fated to commit suicide.

[Mijin]

@begbert2

So you can’t exactly fault a person for bringing his deterministic perspective in here and arguing based on it - and it’s fair to warn people that that’s what’s going on.

I wasn’t faulting you as such. I was just pointing out that this had moved into the territory of a standard debate on free will. Which is significant because…

with the ensuing debate inevitably being one on free will.

…this point is debatable.
I mean, the OP is talking about “fate” but it is also specifically in the context of suicide, so it’s not obvious that a standard debate on free will is what’s desired.
(If it were, why is the OP not phrased more generally?).

That’s all I’m saying.

[begbert2]

@Mijin

I wasn’t faulting you as such. I was just pointing out that this had moved into the territory of a standard debate on free will. Which is significant because…

…this point is debatable.
I mean, the OP is talking about “fate” but it is also specifically in the context of suicide, so it’s not obvious that a standard debate on free will is what’s desired.
(If it were, why is the OP not phrased more generally?).

That’s all I’m saying.

Well, the topic of this thread isn’t just it’s thread title. The OP raised three points, one of which is getting little debate, and the second of which has both generated debate and is specific to suicide. (I’ve weighed in on that topic myself.) But regarding the third point, which relates to fate, I don’t see any way of discussing it except as it relates to the question of free will in general. Well, unless you define ‘fate’ as only being meaningful in hindsight, in which case the answer is a trivial ‘yes’, but without any significant implications whatsoever.

[giddy]

i paid a stranger via paypal to come in my apt at a certain and kill me! i cant wait!!

[Jonathan_Chance]

Zombie.