Are PS4 or Xbox one really much better than PS3 or Xbox 360? I get the impression the graphics are slightly better, but that alone doesn’t make them worth the extra price to me. I grew up on NES and SNES, so I’m still impressed by Xbox 360 graphics.
Prices on 8th generation consoles aren’t too bad now, and with black friday coming up I’m sure there will be some good deals. But I can always go to craigslist and buy a 7th generation console with multiple games for ~$100 or so. I’d spend $200 just for an 8th generation console with maybe 1 game.
Are the 8th generation consoles worth the extra money vs. buying a 7th generation one?
So (I’m sure nobody has ever asked this before either), playstation or Xbox? I’ve grown accustomed to the 360s controller from playing Tom Clancy games and I’m worried if I buy a PS3 or PS4, that I will have trouble adjusting to the PS controller.
Graphics are much better, like the Xbox 360 vs original Xbox. The UI is much better, with voice recognition that works pretty well and you can use it to control your TV, cable box, etc. You can watch Bluray disks on it now too.
I’ve barely touched my 360 since getting the One. It basically ruined the 360 for me.
(1) Whichever one your friends have, assuming you’d want to play with them
(2) Whichever one has any exclusives you’re more interested in
After that, it’s pretty much a coin flip. Here’s a breakdown of the differences. If I had to pick for myself, I’d likely go PS4 for the slightly better graphics and because their exclusives appeal to me more than X1’s (mainly first person shooters and racing games) but neither is really the “wrong choice” unless all your friends own the other console and you wanted to play with them.
Edit: VR may also be a factor for you though I haven’t played with it to have an opinion. Sounds as though the PS4 excels over the X1 for it though but anyone feel free to correct me.
Well, they are definitely better in terms of graphics and performance. That new hardware also means they can do things they couldn’t do on 7th gen consoles. Vast open areas, large multiplayer maps, more systems in games that ramp up complexity.
The PS4 is the better console right now, (better graphics and performance, better library too IMHO), but like you I wouldn’t be able to deal with the dual shock 4 and the orientation of the sticks.
Thankfully I play on PC so the world is my oyster in terms of input devices. But I hear you, that Xbox controller is fantastic.
Depends on whether you want the games that are on them or not? I haven’t picked up either one yet because a lot of the games I want to play that are on them have also been on the PS3 or the PC.
But the time is coming.
And as far as I am concerned, it’s not even a fight. Does the Xbox 1 even still have games? They clearly seem to be losing this console war, IMHO.
And as someone who has played on a bunch of different controllers, they’re not really that different you guys.
Ditto, although I’d add that I sold mine when I saw that I was getting myself into a bit of a hole of games (backwards compatible, free with gold, on sale) to dig myself out of.
Apart from that, it’s nice and slim, quieter doesn’t have a power brick/transformer, replaces your blu-ray player and has some nice looking games.
Interesting, didn’t know the PS2 alone sold 155 million consoles. The PS4 is selling a lot better than the Xbox one (I looked, the updated numbers for Xbox one are closer to 30 million, still half the PS4).
Xbox was vastly outsold by the PS2, PS4 outsells the Xbox one, but the Xbox 360 and PS3 sold about equally. Not sure why.
The Xbox is backwards compatible, I’m not sure why the Playstation sells better. Aren’t the games the same for the most part? The PS3 having blu ray was a nice add on, but now that blu ray players are cheap it isn’t that big a selling point.
The PS3 started very slow, almost as badly a the Xbox one vs PS4 IIRC. This was due to a retail price at launch of $600 and exclusive titles that would only trickle in later in it’s lifetime vs the heavy hitters Microsoft came out with.
Microsoft’s brilliance, and what consoles have continued to do is to imitate whatever was going on with PC gaming at the time and do whatever it took to bring it to consoles and a more mainstream audience.
From Western games, especially Western RGP’s and FPS titles, to multiplayer gaming, to the hardware and tech, to a larger emphasis on indies, to early access, to a walled garden with a few more doors for devs to get through, to eSports, to MMO’s and Mobas, to modding, to iterative development, to digital sales, now iterative hardware releases, hell, Microsoft even tried RTS games on consoles.
Sony was a bit slower than Microsoft to start doing this, but not by much.
PS2 numbers are so high because production continued for so long. They were still putting out new PS2 games (mostly sports) years into the lifespan of the PS3. They didn’t stop making the damned consoles until very early 2013, a full 12 years after it came out. That machine was a workhorse, and as production costs for the older hardware lowered over the years, Sony just introduced it into less affluent markets like India and Brazil.
The PS3 came out 14 months after the 360, was very expensive, and didn’t have a great series of launch titles. It’s very difficult to compete with a built-in market. It took a couple years for its better hardware to make up for all of that, but at the end of the day it was simply a better system. Backwards compatibility (which it had at launch and then dropped almost immediately) is one of those “nice in theory” things that the majority of gamers don’t actually care about.
The Xbox tends to do very well in NA but not so much elsewhere. It has virtually zero presence in Japan. While the PS3 never caught up with NA sales, it blew past the 360 in every single other market.
The xBONE had a laughably bad launch and a series of PR disasters leading up to it. We’re talking Hindenburg-quality disasters. It never really recovered and lost the lead in NA, the only market that Microsoft has ever been strong in, and even that was only for one console generation.
Microsoft recently released some figures that appear to contradict this theory. It looks like a lot of Xbone1 gamers are dipping in to older titles.
It is different in most cases to PC, where that kind of thing is done more often (I think at least). On PC you can go back to older titles and you know your newer hardware is going to be able to play them at better settings and performance, not so on consoles backwards compatibility. You can also usually count on community created content/mods to make the games worthy of a replay.
See Skyrims renewed success on consoles with the release of the enhanced edition and modding.
But even with those limitaiton, it looks like console gamers DO care about backwards compatibility. Maybe it’s not a shiny feature that draws people to a new console, but it is a feature that is getting used.
“Backwards comparability” is, when we’re talking about consoles, the ability to put a previous generation’s disc into a current generation machine and play it.
Digital version so of old games, modded games, and remastered games aren’t the same thing.
When I say “most console gamers don’t care about backwards compatibility,” I am not saying “most console gamers don’t care about playing older titles.” The market for remastered and re-released games is robust.
Yeah; I also think it’s important to understand the difference between “If you build backwards compatibility into a console, people who have that console will use it” and “If you build backwards compatibility into a console, more people will buy it.” The first is a “Duh” but the second does not appear to be true.
I disagree that this is a major factor for most people, because if they really wanted to play those old games, they probably have an old console. I have lots of old consoles. I don’t play the games on them very often. And having those games on newer consoles doesn’t help.
What DOES sometimes help is moving games from console to PC, because my PC gaming environment (in the office, out of the way) is different from my console gaming environment (on the TV, in the living room) so there is a meaningful change there, but moving from console X to console Y does nothing for how likely I am to play a game.
The new Kingdom Hearts III clips of the Toy Story portion are better than at least the graphics of Toy Story and possibly Toy Story II.
The graphics are definitely a lot better, though, at this point, you probably want the generation 8.5 stuff unless you’re bargain shopping. The PlayStation 4 Pro is pretty cheap. And, while the main talk is about 4k graphics, the benefits are pretty good on 1080p, too.
The Xbox One X is probably too much for most people, but the Xbox One S is probably a good buy, too.
Of course, if you’ve been playing last gen stuff, maybe generation 8.0 is enough for you, and maybe people will be selling their old stuff, so you could get a good deal.
As for which console is better: here’s what I’ve heard: PS4 is a game machine that happens to also have some media features. Xbox One is a media machine that also happens to play games. Also, PS4 has a lot more exclusives. (Hell, if you count PC, Xbox One has none, by design. Xbox is doing so poorly that Microsoft is pushing all their stuff onto Windows.)
This last bit is the most compelling reason to NOT get one. Forget all the other stuff. This console is a money pit for Microsoft, which bodes poorly for its long term survival. Xbox is not nearly a strong enough brand that I wouldn’t be concerned about it going the way of the Zune if things continue as they are.
The Xbox one S now goes for about $249 new, but I’ve seen some deals where it goes for $199 now. However the Xbox ones on craigslist (the original models, not the S) are still going for $150+, sometimes $200-300.
I’m assuming black friday will have some Xbox one S models for $150-200.