I’m really puzzled about how you could be confused by this… Not only is Michelle Bachmann not President, but she’s also female. What makes you think that Hopey McDowngrade is both President and male?
Confusion with Crazy McBatshit?
I think he was referring to that female bard from Wasilla that once said:
“To be hopey changey or not to be hopey changey, that is the gotcha question.”
Granted, it’s not as stalwart and rock solid as the Tea Baggers’, “We want to take our country back,” or was it, “Read the Constitution, morans!” or possibly “Get your Governement out of my Medicare,” (they all start to run together to me) but “Economic Inequality” is a good a slogan as any.
What percent of them want a pony?
I mean, seriously, those look more like the demands of spoiled children than reasoning adults.
You’re not the only observer with that problem, here . . . but that fault is in you, not in the OWSers.
They are in a number of cities, can you be more specific as to which lawn you want them off?
All of them!!
You made a gratuitous assertion, and then criticized someone for making another gratuitous assertion. Sauce for the goose, etc.
I’m confused. It’s okay when you quote “lefty” sources, but it isn’t okay when others quote “lefty” sources. And when someone
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(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/15/AR2009081502696.html?nav=hcmodule&sid=ST2009081502700) the same kind of sources that you say you use, it is dismissed because it is a “lefty” cite. That’s not fair play.
So far as I know, and I’m open to correction, there has been no “MSNBC Occupy Wall Street” television special. There was, however, an “FNC Tax Day Tea Party” event in four cities, with Sean Hannity asking his viewers to “join us” to attend a paid event benefitting the Cincinnati Tea Party. Even though Fox promoted and attached its name to these Tea Party rallies, having one of the top ratings-getters for the “news” station asking people to attend a political rally selling tickets was apparently too much for Mr. Murdoch, who told Hannity to knock it off.
Why did Rupert Murdoch need to say anything about Hannity promoting political events charging admission if there had been no promotion by Fox News of the rallies? It doesn’t make sense. Obviously, Hannity and others WERE promoting the rallies, and the Fox News leadership had to step in and say, “Whoa, dial it back. We’re supposed to be a news organization… HAHAHAHAHA I couldn’t keep a straight face and say that.”
How about you provide a cite that Ted Kennedy was the guy who was actually behind the 2000 push-poll in South Carolina which asked voters if they would still support John McCain if they knew he had a black baby?
What? Are you saying that you never said such a thing?
Well, I never said that Fox News started the Tea Party. Fox News obviously promoted the Tea Party rallies, as evidenced by the already-cited news stories that labeled the events the “FNC Tax Day Tea Party Rallies,” promoted them in advance of the events actually happening, had their on-air personalities asking people to join them at the events, and so on.
But to deny that organizations like FreedomWorks helped sponsor the early Tea Party rallies is simply undeniable. For example, on February 27, 2009, the organizer of a Tea Party rally in Tampa gave credit to Tom Gaitens of FreedomWorks for giving him the idea to start the “Tampa Tea Party.” Link. Warning, shields up, it’s a lefty cite… but then just two weeks later, the very same Tom Gaitens of FreedomWorks (who is the “Florida Field Coordinator,” by the way) announced that Dick Army was going to make a speech to the Tampa Tea Party. Link.
Clearly, FreedomWorks, what with its deep pockets and large organization, had a role in the creation of at least one tea party organization. Since the FreedomWorks 501(c)(4) does not need to disclose its funding sources, nor who receives the allegedly substantial amount of funds it raises, we may never know the complete extent to which they were involved in creating other tea party organizations, but we have established that the Tampa Tea Party was not a grassroots organization.
Which is fine. The Tea Party organizations, along with FreedomWorks, are exercising their First Amendment rights. But to claim that the rise of the Tea Party was an example of a pure grassroots movement, free from organization and funding from Washington, DC interest groups and their corporate sponsors, simply doesn’t hold water.
If you have evidence that Occupy Wall Street is also an astroturf funded movement, great. I don’t care for them or their hippy-dippie disorganized, revolutionary message. No skin off my nose if you want to bash them.
Hey, c’mon, Zuccotti Park is Liberated Territory now! Like People’s Park!
Good point, guys! Heaven knows what sort of mess we might be in, had it not been for sensible adults.
Fortunately or Unfortunately, Zuccotti (why do I always want to say Zuccini) is Private Property. Which I suppose makes it also “theft”.
Maybe if you ask the drum circle nicely, they will play some ABBA for you.
Anyone remember the video of the Fox news producer leading the crowd to cheer during a Fox News Tea Party “news-y” broadcast?
Yep – attempt to feed patient bullshit results in citation of counter-bullshit cite within 38 minutes. Patient shows healthy pulse and exemplary intellectual honesty.
I don’t know how many are bronies…
Now, that was a good point over there.. let me ponder that for awhile..
Nah, my mistake, it was a very silly reply.
More seriously, as the Forbes contributor reported, it is basically economical and social justice what they are protesting for, but what it is telling is how easy is for some to qualify those demands as coming from spoiled children. One just needs to realize that not all those demands will benefit them but others that are in need and they are willing to risk arrest and some harm to show not only the media but to many others what even democrats are not discussing.
We should not forget, for example, that the worst enemies for real health care reform were conservative democrats and even the corporate media was complicit on not informing the public on the needed items that were removed from discussion early.
We should consider also the internet/phone access issue, it is not as frivolous as a first glance could tell, just by context one should be aware that a lack of access is a big factor on keeping many people on the dark and it is not just a social justice issue, as several people participating in this protest experienced recently. Authorities in other nations did attempt to remove internet access to all to prevent protests from becoming a force to be noticed (many of the ones protesting in the US supported the protesters in Egypt and they experienced the censorship of the internet when they were blocked by Egyptian authorities from helping the protesters in Egypt).
Agreed.
They’re demanding free Internet and cellphone service?
What’s next? Demanding free electricity.
Those idiots make the Tea Partiers look realistic.
While I’m no fan of the Tea Party members they had far, far larger demonstrations.
Again, the context where they are coming from includes the protests in Egypt, you bet access to information is a need.
And the main point remains access, the context IMHO includes “free” items like Skype, what I think they are referring to is what even some speakers at TED recently referred to when noticing how technology is making communications cheaper, there is very little excuse to not make an effort to grant access (even free) to people in need.
With funding and support from wealthy conservatives and complicit media. As posted already they even managed to shut down any environmental concerns some tea partiers had, and now the results are in, Virtually all Republicans elected recently are climate change deniers and so, many energy companies that invested on the movement got what they wanted in the form of inaction from government regarding the control of carbon emissions.