Are the dittoheads taking over The Straight Dope too? Cecil makes a factual error

Administrator: Ouch! OK, I learned my lesson. I started a new thread under Great Debates, “Did April Glaspie give Saddam the green light to invade Kuwait?” You are much more forgiving that the moderator on the Free (sic) Republic DB, where I only lasted 30 seconds after calling Ann Coulter a “rabid bitch.”

DRomm: Although George Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush were no doubt slimeballs, I think the evidence I just posted about George Herbert Walker Bush’s (there is something Satanic about the way these people recycle their names) direct links to Nazis is far more damning. If you put together all the info in Russ Bellant’s book “Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party” and Chris Simpson’s “Blowback,” it seems pretty clear that the US is becoming the Fourth Reich. What are the tenets of National Socialism? It is like the Corporate Socialism that we are moving toward?

This thread has become awfully quiet. No one has been able to counter my evidence of George HW Bush’s Nazi links, nor has anyone been able to explain why the Bushes are good Nazis and Pat Buchanan is a bad Nazi.

Woohoo! I won! So much for your prediction, samclem.

I missed the part where Cecil was talking about the 1990’s in the article. Forgive me.

“It’s taking longer than I thought.”

You still don’t get the rules, do you? This is spoken as a friend, not as a mod-wannabe. You’re obviously so damn intelligent, and I mean that. Seriously.

Why do you want to blow it?

According to the Administrator, this is still fair game, namely Bush family ties to Nazis. Or did you not read what the Administrator wrote?

Also sprach Administhustra:

"Thus, the allegations of Bush family connexions with the Nazis is fair game, and the discussion can range freely around that. Conversely, discussion of Nazis and WWII is also appropriate as long as it is related to the Bush family (or to other American financial supporters). "

I am still attempting to distill the essence of Cecil’s column. It is not just a single incident of Bush-Nazi connections, a Prescothian peccadillo, surely one share of a bank is not a war crime, but, yea, a family tradition of sleeping with Nazis, that would be something, would it not? A spectrogram of despicability that would surely identify the genetic structures that underlie our constant fractal urges toward fascism…

Is not truth more important than longevity on discussion boards? I thought this whole operation was about dispelling ignorance? You obviously have nothing of any substance to contribute, so you throw your hands up to the referee as I deftly destroy you intellectually…you and all your silent fascist friends…well Wittgenstein was right…

When Cecil said Preston Bush only had a single share of stock. He kinda failed to mention that he was the VP at the bank and was IN CHARGE of the accounts that made the deals. The father-in-law Bert Walker was the Pres. and a partner.

So, it is a little misleading to say he only had a single share. Thus, implying he was a semi-innocent bystander.

Good point t-keela.
Here is some more info about Prescott Bush and his involvement with Standard Oil’s trading with the Nazis:

Standard Oil also taught the Nazi German chemical company I.G. Farben how to make tetraethyl
lead and add it to gasoline to make leaded gasoline. That information was priceless, since leaded gas
was essential for modern mechanized warfare. One I.G. Farben memo noted Standard Oil’s help in
procuring $20 million worth of aviation fuel. "The fact that we actually succeeded by means of the
most difficult of negotiations in buying the quantity we needed… and transporting it to
Germany, was made possible only through the aid of the Standard Oil Company (emphases
added)."According to a l992 article in the Village Voice, Brown Brothers Harriman was the Wall
Street investment firm that arranged for a loan of tetraethyl lead to the Nazi Luftwaffe in l938. A
senior managing partner of the firm was George Bush’s father, Prescott Bush. (It’s A
Conspiracy l25-7).< p In a reference adding to this information, Bowen tells us thatStandard Oil
remained in partnership with Farben in the matter of tetraethyl lead, an additive used in aviation
gasoline. Goering’s air force couldn’t fly without it… The result was that Hitler’s air force was
rendered capable of bombing London. And by supplying Japan with tetraethyl, Teagle helped
make it possible for the Japanese to wage WorldWar2.(Bowen2-11) In regard to William
Stamps Farrish, a name which was to be closely associated with the Bush family for three
entire generations preceding, during and after World War II, Higham had this to say:

“William Stamps Farrish… was mesmerized by Germany… [H]e staffed the Standard Oil
tankers with Nazi crews. When war broke out in Europe, he ran into trouble with British
Intelligence, which boarded some of his vessels outside U.S territorial waters on the Atlantic
and Pacific seaboards and seized Nazi agents who were passengers…When the British began
interrogating Nazi crews on the Hitler-Standard connection, Farrish fired the Germans and
changed the registry of the entire fleet to Panamanian to avoid British search and seizure. His
vessels carried oil to Tenerife in the Canary Islands, where they refueled and siphoned oil to
German tankers for shipment to Hamburg. They also fueled U-boats even after the American
government… was fighting an undeclared war in the Atlantic…Standard tankers supplied the
submarines which… sank American ships…” (Higham, Trading 35-6).

http://www.aristotle.net/~mstandridge/cpbush.htm

W.S. Farrish is the guy that George HW Bush gave his assets over to in a blind trust before he became President.

mystic2311, your comments about Texas are ridiculous. To prevent further hijack, visit this thread:
Iraq annexing Kuwait = U.S. annexing Texas

mystic said

Actually, the trust was managed by W.S. Farrish III, the grandson of the WS Farrish who is linked to the Nazi-Bush-Harriman-Standard Oil, etc. conspiracy durning WWII. I know, it gets quite confusing. There go those damn rich people, using the same name over and over again. It’s a conspiracy, I tell you. :slight_smile:

Rather than merely go on about this subject in the Straight Dope Message Boards, I have written the column I thought Cecil should have, and posted it at http://www.romm.org/prescott.html . It’s not as good as The Master would have done if he’d answered the original question, but since he didn’t, I did some research. (Watch all those urls disappear in three months…)