are there any areas of the US that are actually unsafe in the middle of the day?

Innsmouth, Massachusetts is said to be a pretty scary place, even during the daytime.

Whatever you do, don’t encourage the drunken nonagenarians.
Damned fishheads.

Yeah my good friend Lovecraft warned me about those damn bastards.

I feel safe anywhere in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Yeah, it’s so frikken hot it keeps even criminals off the street. :wink:

Bit of a hijack, but on the 10th anniversary DVD of Reservoir Dogs, there is an interview with Michael Madsen, who played the psychotic Mr Blond. He said something that has stuck in my mind: That he and Tarantino, being native Los Angelenos, thought there was nothing particularly controversial about the “Ear” scene - that it was entirely expected that a hardened LA crim would, given the opportunity, want to torture an LA cop to death. Whereas the rest of the cast, who were mostly from New York (and the UK in Tim Roth’s case), were seriously freaked out on first reading that section of the script.

There is an area of Albuquerque known as “The Kirtland Addition” that is quite scary.

There are several land grant (from king of spain) communities in New Mexico that are distictly unfriendly to outsiders…especially ones with light sking that don’t hable’.

The south side. Heh.

There are parts of San Francisco’s Bayview and Hunters Point neighborhoods that are so bad that the city was considering parking manned fire trucks on the corners on the nutjob theory that while the gangs and thugs will happily shoot at cops, they wouldn’t mess with firefighters.

I don’t find the Kirtland Addition to be “quite scary” at all. Sure, there’s poverty and crime, but I don’t think it’s random crime. Especially in the daytime. We used to take our son to play in a park there when he was small, because it’s more ethnically diverse than the University area where we lived at the time. We became friends with other families who live there. I’ve even gone there as a Public Health disease prevention specialist to find people named as partners to patients with sexually transmitted diseases and never found a reason to fear being victimized.

I’m not sure what you mean by “hable’,” but I love visiting the old rural communities in northern New Mexico. Some residents keep to themselves, but I have never found them to be unfriendly.

I’ve lived in Albuquerque for over 30 years and my family goes back in this area for generations.

It sounds like you’ve had some bad experiences in New Mexico, because I’m hoping you’re not just scared to be around people who don’t look like you?

You live in Central America and you call Albuquerque “hot”? Very little humidity and we’re at a mile high elevation, so it’s mostly pretty mild here, hombre.

Nope, they are still there. They are supposed to be getting shut down and vacated, but the city is dragging it’s feet. Not sure of the reason. The number of residents is way down though, and many parts of the buildings are condemned. However, there’s still plenty of reason to be careful around there.

But, the neighborhood is alot safer. They are located in a very good location. Situated between some really nice, affluent neighborhoods and the downtown area. Once word got outthat the projects were going the way of the dodo, money absolutely poured into every piece of land close by. As a result there are alot of nice condos built really close by, many of which are percentage government housing, lots of new stores and other promising details. In another decade it’ll just be Lincoln Park South.

Same deal here. For my high school graduation present my parents paid myself and my sister to Chicago (I was in love with it back then) I decided one night to walk from my motel (nicest Motel 6 ever right in the heart of all the giant luxury Hotels) to the Second City Theater on Halstead. I was dressed nice for a night out and decidedto vary my path a bit rather than just take the straight shot to the theater. After about a block and half off a main street a guy stopped and offered to escort me back to the an area with streetlights and heavy traffic. I took him up on the offer.
I am curious what areas of LA are considered that dangerous during the day. I have lived here less than a year and used to get lost quite a bit and have driven in every neighborhood and none of them made me fearful.

“t sounds like you’ve had some bad experiences in New Mexico, because I’m hoping you’re not just scared to be around people who don’t look like you?”

I’ve been “asked” to leave BLM land near Chilili at gunpoint * by a man who claimed I was on his property. I double checked afterward, and yes, it was BLM land, and no there were no grazing, mining, or other permits covering that area. I suspect this possibly a poacher, and I was scaring the deer away. (nowhere near deer season) However, given the nature of the signs displayed in Chilili (short version: “Outsiders go away and don’t come back”) I also think it is likely that a tall gringo obviously didn’t belong around there.

*“at gunpoint” implys that he pointed the gun “at” me, which he didn’t actually do. It was a 30-30 which he unslung from his shoulder and held with both hands, across his chest…roughly the long-arm equivilent of drawing a hangun from it’s holster, but still pointing it in a safe direction.

And yes I have had many POSITIVE esperiences in rural New Mexico, and I don’t stay in my house peaking out the curtains. Chilili and Truchas make the hair on the back of neck stand up though. No actual bad experiences in Truchas, just the vibe I feel when passing through.

Kirtland Addition may well be safe enough. Just makes me feel like driving a car with a functional muffler, 4 matching tires, and hitting on all cylinders constitutes a conspicuous display of wealth. We ARE talking about that little patch between the north off-airport lots and I-25 right? I’ve also heard the area north of Gibson also called KA, but that is not near as bad as that enclave I’m thinking of.

Yep, the few times my friends and I ended up driving through Camden at night we’d treat the red lights as “California stops”. I would not walk through downtown Camden at any time for any reason, though the area around the courthouse and Community College is not so bad as the actual downtown ghetto.

Weird. Just today my girlfriend was telling me about a documentary about Hunter’s Point that her roommate had just watched. The documentary followed different residents of the neighborhood and by the time the doc was finished over half of the subjects had been murdered.

You mean HP Lovecraft’s “The Shadow Over Innsmouth” is T R U E ! ! :eek: :eek: :eek:

I guess I’ll go to peaceful Dunwich instead!! ;j

As in “no habla espanol” - as in “You don’t speak Spanish/Mexican? You don’t belong here.”

I get it now; you’re one of those people. So determined to be tolerant, urban, etc. that there are no “bad areas.” Having lived in Chicago, I nearly died laughing at this stupid white woman at school who simply categorically denied that any parts of the city were unsafe. Cabrini Green? Oh no, she personally walked there alone at 3 in the morning on a regular basis. Robert Taylor Homes? She stripped naked, glued $100 bills to her body, and fell asleep on the sidewalk at midnight and no one accosted her. Blah blah blah. She was fine, because she was comfortable with people of different colors, etc. Anyone who was afraid of any area was afraid solely because they were racists.

Yeah.

Gee, do you generalize and stereotype much, SlyFrog? Sure, there are “bad” parts of town (drugs, gangs, etc.), but there is simply not one part of Albuquerque I would feel afraid to wander around in the daytime (My work has called for me to crawl around every bit of it, too). Maybe that’s true in Chicago or LA, but it’s a ridiculous idea here. And I certainly won’t be “afraid” of Chilili because of one person’s single experience with an asshole there (Chilili has a really interesting old graveyard, if any of you are ever in the area).

One of the reasons we used to go to the park in the Kirtland Addition is because our son is black and there are more black people in that neighborhood. At that time we lived in a mostly white and hispanic neighborhood and we figured he had the right to see more people who look like him once in awhile. We were dealing with families in the park as opposed to interacting with gangbanger teenagers on the corner, but our experience was that people were extremely friendly there.

My son is 14 now and I am more afraid for him walking around town than I am for me. I warn him not to trespass in mostly white neighborhoods because I’m afraid he’ll be shot by one of those people who’s afraid of black guys.