Are there any noncompetitive jobs at all anywhere nowadays?

Government clerk jobs are very noncompetitive to hold, but somewhat competitive to get. Fast food restaurant jobs are somewhat competitive regarding job performance, but very noncompetitive in the hiring process.

If you’re in any kind of technical job, forget it. Even qualifications that match perfectly and marquee names on the resume mean nothing. In i.t., we face competition from 2 annoying sources, both designed to give employers the excuse of ‘a global market’ to take jobs away from Americans. At least since the 90s, it’s been hell competing with outsourcing (typically to low-average-wage countries), and the H1B visa program, wherein a company can hire a ‘short-term-consultant’ for up to 7 years! How is that fair competition, where a company can pay a citizen a commensurate salary, or a non-American 2/3 of a commensurate salary? The answer is, it ain’t. In most cases, they can also get away with no time off, no benefits, and the H1B people a lot less likely to complain or talk back. If u have an education and good work experience in a tech field, no such thing as noncompetitive anymore.

I bet this guy will keep his job if he decides to keep showing up; if only because no else wants it.

Why would anyone want a non-competitive job as defined by the OP?

How does that work? I thought by law, employers were required to post job openings publicly before hiring an H1B worker. I was once an H1B worker and my salary certainly wasn’t 2/3 of US citizens.

Speculating: there may be an exception if you call them “consultants.” Also, the public posting can be extremely specific. Also also, required to post publicly doesn’t mean required to seriously consider applicants.

I’ve mentioned this company a couple times before, and I know there are a few others here who also once worked for them: RGIS. They do inventories of retail stores. It’s a horrifically shitty job, but they will hire absolutely anybody (because most people only last about a month).

One I actually know about personally : truck driving.

You do need a class A drivers license and a clean record, however.

But if you have those 2, and you are willing to work for the bottom of the barrel trucking companies that hire rookies (Werner is one of them), they’ll pretty much offer you a job after a phone call. They’ll even keep hounding you if you change your mind…

The meat packing industry fits the criteria of the OP. During the dark days of the Carter Administration, unemployment rates peaked at 10.6%. Inflation was rampant, and home interest rates were up to 18%.

I was a laid off carpenter working as an apartment complex maintenance man. I was given two weeks notice that my job was at an end and thirty days to get out of my apartment. To top it off, my wife was eight months pregnant.

The next day, I showed up at a slaughterhouse at 4.00am. I asked the first person I saw who I should see about a job. He directed me to a guy named Lou. I was hired on the spot and started work immediately. I boxed up tripe for a month or so and then was promoted to the tongue saw.

A year later, the slaughterhouse folded, but it kept food on the table and paid the rent.

Employers are required to post notification at the worksite that they are hiring an H-1B worker, and the worker’s position title and salary, but that doesn’t mean they are required to prefer U.S. workers over H-1B workers for hiring purposes (except in very limited circumstances). They are also required to pay the H-1B worker a minimum of the prevailing wage for the position, level, and geographic location, as determined by the Department of Labor, or what they pay other workers who hold that position, whichever is higher. There is no exception for consultants.

If employers of H-1B workers comply with the program requirements, there should be no incentive to hire H-1B workers over U.S. workers because the government filing fees (which are in the multiple thousands of dollars in most cases, not including legal fees and compliance expenses and hassle) along with the requirement to pay H-1B workers at least as much as U.S. workers make it more expensive to employ H-1B workers.

Most people mix up H-1B posting requirements with the portion of the employment-based green card process called labor certification.

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Do not know if this is still true today. But 2nd & 3rd Assistant Engineers and 2nd & 3rd Mates dispatched to work on US flag ships. They will not get dispatched unless they have the proper license, but only one is dispatched per job.

I’ll take this in a new direction, what about running your own buisness?

If you have a sound buisness plan, show up, do your gig and go home. Can’t get fired by any boss. I know there’s more details but the essence is there.

I saw a documentary on TV about working in a coal mine, the owners and managers said it was very hard to find people who could pass the drug test and be relied upon to work 60 odd hours a week (plus overtime) which is what would be required in the mines. The fact that they were in appalacia didn’t help.

To the OP: Sex work always seem to be a sellers market. Stripper, prostitute, etc.

Apparently CEOs can keep being CEOs at new companies regardless of past failure because the candidate pool is so small.

My guess is graveyard parking lot attendant. No inventory, and you might not get any customers.

Warehouse work. Driving the forklift. Unloading trucks. Pulling stock. There’s still a lot of that type work out there.

Fast food is always looking for dependable people. Especially cooks in the Pizza and Chicken places.

And consider a lot of these jobs are poorly managed. My brother was 3 bachelors degrees. Between the second and third, he had to move out of town and thought a p/t job would be a good idea for the two years he’d live there. Pretty much no one would hire him because he wasn’t a teen and had two college degrees, all citing how he’d leave when he found something better. He explained to several he’d be there a minimum of two years and wouldn’t be looking for something else until after he finished; the manager at McDonalds conceded 2 years was more than double the average time someone lasted, but still passed. :smack:

I would expect there not to be much competition among preachers.

Me, I’ve always figured that when I get tired of hunting for actually paying work, I’d look into ways of becoming a gravedigger or cemetary groundskeeper. I figure it shouldn’t be too difficult to land a gig as I expect most folks would get icked by the very notion, and the work itself seems nice : quiet, outdoor work, no bitching customers, nobody riding your ass over TPS reports, opportunities to meet cute goth chicks at night - what’s not to like ?

It also helps to be covered in tattoos and have all sorts of exotic body piercings, or at least that’s the way it is around here.

I’ve seen those people, and you are obviously right. Most of them looked like they couldn’t get hired doing anything else.

There’s an incoming call center in my town that will hire anyone who can fog a mirror, too.

Depending on the OP’s definition of “noncompetitive”, you could include most transportation/shipping jobs which have a union. You have to be good enough to pass the requirements for (whatever) certification, but once you’ve done it you needn’t try to outdo your co-workers. You only need to meet the minimum productivity required to keep your job, and advance with seniority.

I’ve worked as a union warehouse-stack-stuff-here guy for years and I had no need to “stack” stuff faster than my co-workers. I also worked as a union driver (UPS) and never needed to compete with my fellow drivers, only to finish deliveries at the required rate. Doing it faster than everyone else gained me nothing. For that matter, my son is an airline pilot and while it’s tough to get all the licenses, he doesn’t have to fly “better” than the other pilots. He only needs to pass the recurrent testing and wait for seniority to accrue (raises are mainly based almost solely on the calendar).