Are we off the rails in "Elections"? Do we need corrective action?

The lines between a “rant” and a diatribe about the current state of politics is mighty thin.

And is Bone really insists that the OP is a rant and not Elections, then let him close it.

Otherwise people are being forced into the Pit against their expressed wishes.

Which is an argument against any thread being moved to any forum. If I start a thread in GQ, why should I be forced to post in GD just because a mod moved the thread?

The vast majority of posters here never have any threads moved to the Pit. I know none of mine have been. We don’t need to a fix a problem that only 0.1% of the posters have. They need to fix their ability to start a non-ranting OP.

What about people who are banned? They are forced to not post here anymore against their wishes!!! :eek:

if it’s a non-problem than they dont need that solution.

Which they can by closing the thread.

The idea of closing threads rather than moving them was addressed here:

Well, if the rules in GD were significantly different than in GQ, you’d have a real issue.

I’d rather have my discussion “stifled” than taken off the rails in waves of insults, personal attacks and random profanity. In any case, taking a thread to the pit stifles all rational discussion.

Obviously we agree here and we are hardly alone.

There is no discussion in the Pit, you’re lucky if you get a mud flinging pile on.

Nothing has ever turned into a “real discussion” in the Pit. There is no chance whatsoever.

Wrong again. It happens from time to time, and we’ve even seen threads moved from the Pit to GD.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

In other words, your assertion is wrong.

In point of fact, there is an interesting discussion going on right now about two guys who uploaded porn to shake down people who downloaded it. The discussion covers the legal issues, other examples, the conduct of the RIAA, and so on. It’s a good read.

“I pit two douchebag lawyers etc.”
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=814245

They are. Fact based for GQ, debate for GD. Summarised so often by Colobri as: " No political jabs in GQ."

If the discussion in your GQ thread turns into politics, the thread is often off to GD and your chance of getting a factual answer diminishes tremendously.

I would venture that GQ is the forum that has the most threads moved out of it. Whether the OP is asking advice (instead of looking for factual answers) or there is no answer or the thread turns political.

I’d modify that to ‘be patient, and let’s see if it dies down’ because, you know, it might not. :wink:

But yeah, no need to be pre-emptive. IF the Trumpster Fire dies down, at least on this board, then no need to do anything really. And if it doesn’t, it’s not like the consequences of not doing something about it quickly are exactly earthshaking.

The line between a rant and a diatribe on the SDMB does not exist.

If someone posts an angry, abuse filled diatribe, here, it has the same weight in terms of general discussion, as a rant.

The notion that a thread in GD or Elections, (or Cafe Society or anywhere else), that bitterly attacks a specific point of view will inspire a calm, rational discussion and not provoke proponents of the attacked position to respond in kind with ever escalating hostility is simply not a real world expectation. For a poster to insist that his or her thread was a “diatribe” and not a rant and should, therefore, be allowed to stand in its original forum indicates an illusory perspective.

Yes. The most common single move is from GQ to IMHO, then probably GQ to GD. (Some threads are GD material from the beginning, some evolve that way.)

I concur with Tom. It is easy for someone to think they’re just being objective when they’re actually ranting. Such will get you moved to the Pit.

And OPs have no special authority over whether a thread should be moved or not. If it’s off the rails it’s off the rails.