Another possible slight aside …
Take a quick peek at the bullet points. Alarming.
Thanks for that.
I don’t expect to see Mickey Mouse fire one up( oh crap there probably is a MM episode with smoking) Ok. Baby Sharks wouldn’t.
There is an episode of Sponge Bob SquarePants where he and Patrick are caught using sentence enhancers (curse words, I presume) my kids worried me to death wanting to know what these were. The show had cutely bleeped everytime they said the words. I finally just wrote all the dirty words I could think of and age appropriately explained what they meant and told them to never use them. Not to call anyone any of them
Not to tell anyone what they were. It shut them up.
And I’m sure they used them on occasion as young teens. I know they have as adults.
We just can’t be too restrictive. It just causes more questions. And kids will find a way.
But Fred and Barney did.
Of course they did. That’s funny.
It doesn’t have to “come close to a real kidnapping” to be terrible behavior that also does not come close to a “benign prank”. Breaking somebody’s arm wouldn’t come close to murdering them, either; but that doesn’t mean it’s not seriously bad behavior.
If they get those warning labels and notices and read (or whatever) the thing anyway, then if they get upset it’s their own fault.
As near as I can tell, the OP doesn’t want there to be any warning labels or notices. If an adult who can read signs jumps in the signposted deep end of the pool and sinks, that’s their own fault. If somebody objects to their being any signs about how deep the pool is, that’s something else entirely.
Nobody’s talking about that. We’re talking about making informed choices. Which can’t be made if information is withheld.
As near as I can tell, the people who are currently trying to ban books are the ones complaining about content warnings. The people who want content warnings seem to generally be opposed to banning. Why would you bother to ask for warnings on something you didn’t want to exist at all?
Gotcha. I see your point. I get the old “you’re not the boss of me” feeling sometimes when I see the millions of warnings, everywhere.
And I really don’t think most people ever read them. They just dive right in that ‘no diving’ end of the pool.
Here, it’s hunting season proper. There’s a book printed at great cost, I’m sure, just full of regulations, warnings, rules, and big no-nos. I don’t think any hunter I ever met reads that book. The rules change on the regular so the book gets reissued every year. They rely on word of mouth to get the info. The jail is full of hunters breaking the laws, right now.
I think most of them probably heard it’s not a good idea to drive around in your redneck truck, drinking, throwing cans out and spotlighting deer, to shoot. At night. They do it anyway.
Why do they print the book? Who the hell knows?
Indeed, there is. Before modern Mickey Mouse, though.
I just knew there would be.
Most hunters I know read the regulations regarding where, when, how, and what you can hunt just so they can plan their schdules around it. Admittedly, I don’t re-read all the safety material each year because they don’t really change very often.
I’m allover the place in this thread. I will, I won’t. Don’t do it, leave me alone I’ll do what I want. Zealous, and eh, who cares.
Look the bottom line is, if you are aware of your own mental health. Receiving treatment, taking meds(if you can get past the warning labels, that is). You know what you’re allergic to. Unless you are mentally diminished somehow, you know what your children need or should not see. Know your own beliefs.
If you’re half way a thinking person you can and should decide what is safe for you .
Is it the labels are for everyone else? I don’t see the big companies even giving a crap whether I eat too much added sugar, or not.
This is mandated. That’s the only reason it’s on there.
Do we feel better knowing the dummies of the world might read the labels.
I doubt 20% of people understand what side effects mental health meds have. Or if they know, they don’t care. They think it will fix them magically.
Look at Xanax. Treatment of anxiety. A good medicine. It’s often abused. No one cares it has horrible side effects, if mis-used. Probably deadly with alcohol.
Put all the labels and articles out you want. Ain’t hardly no one reading them.
We’re all gonna be on psychiatric drugs and feel good pills, drunk, disillusioned til we’re just cogs in a wheel for some computer running everything. Damn, that’s a little dystopian for me. Sorry.
I just don’t know how much more precious we can become and still exist and have our destiny in our own hands.
I think the thing to remember is these kinds of things are a process rather than something you do once and you’re finished. As we continue to change what we choose to warn about and where we choose to put those warnings will change as well.
I’m truly happy that’s happening in your world. My husband a very old, long time hunter/fisherman can spout the rules and regs out. And does.
The usual local yokels around here? I’m not so sure it’s happening.
Of course. And even in spaces that were traditionally meant to explore ideas such as universities and the Great Debates forums you can see the insidious and destructive pandering to the emotionally immature. Unfortunately, I think that this overly sensitive mindset and the reactions said minds generate are being deliberately cultivated.
That said, I don’t think there is anything wrong with a bit of a heads up to a perspective audience about content that may be over the top sexual, violent, or crass. That way people can make a more informed decision about what they choose to patronize.
I have heard that most families who have a deaf child do not learn ASL. One family who was an exception to this said that when they met with ASL instructors, as soon as they found out their child was deaf, one thing they learned was all the signs for dirty words, because “They will learn them, and you need to know what they look like.”
Yeah and they’re super simple. Easy for small hands to do.
My Daddy taught the Lil’wrekker Japanese dirty words. I should have known what he was up to. But I wasn’t aware. It’s funny because she really didn’t know what she was saying except it made her"Diddy" laugh and laugh. We unlearned her as soon as we could.
I feel there is a serious problem even just with warning labels. Why? Consider movies and video games with their rating systems. How often is a movie made worse, compromising both story and presentation in order to go after the PG-13 rating? How often does a video game with an AO rating get made with real funding?
Just because it isn’t prohibited to make something with certain content doesn’t mean the oversensitivity doesn’t have a chilling effect on the creation of things.
Edit: This could also be said to be a problem with capitalism and the need to maximize audience and make the most money from things, but that’s kind of something we’re largely stuck with at this point for the foreseeable future. Sure, in a situation where things could get made with equal quality and funding even if they’re not necessarily going to be as profitable, I wouldn’t have this complaint, but that’s not the reality we have.
seems to me this is the argument that goes:
“I’m responsible! For my own life! Fuck off!”
“What about the people who aren’t as good at making choices as you?”
“It’s their responsibilty to get better at it!”
“What about the people who are fragile, or damaged?”
“They should get stronger, and heal themselves!”
“What if they can’t?”
“They could if they really wanted to. Anyway, I’m not responsible for them, I’m just responsible for me! Refer to first line!”
The truth is I’m(we, us)are not responsible for them.
The PTB don’t take responsibility. They don’t care at all.
In fact they give the responsibility over to a mandate or corporate decision to add a label or warning.
As for, they should get stronger, be less fragile, be healed? I’ll bet they would love to. I would love that for them too, 'cause I’m nice like that.
Even a emotionally compromised person who’s had significant trauma can and should be careful what media they indulge in. Or what events to attend.
It like me knowing what I can or can’t eat. Certain consumables are detrimental to me being able to be alive. I don’t care if John Q. Public can have 12 candy bars and a bottle of bourbon. I know I cannot. It’s my adult responsibility to attend to this. With the help of my loved ones and medical persons. No one else’s.
I also have recently noticed an apparent increase in warnings on TV for an apparent increased variety of triggers. On one hand, they strike me as mildly silly - and reflective of a recent trend I do not entirely favor. But I recognize how ridiculously minimally such warnings affect me, so I don’t feel strongly about them at all.
This reminds me of a thread I recently started asking if people perceive themselves as having experienced trauma.
I feel we have seen the pendulum swing back from previous generations saying, “Suck it up, don’t be a crybaby!” to today’s, “But they are my feelings and they are real!” In my personal opinion, the pendulum has swung a tad too far in that direction. I think humans are tougher than many credit us being. Much of the focus on our inner discomfort reflects how comfortable and safe our lives actually are - we stress over emotions because our more basic needs for food, shelter, etc. are covered. I think some people derive some benefit from perceiving themselves as fragile and victims. And I note that many mental health care professionals profit from such an attitude. To some extent and in some situations, I feel people reinforce their own sensitivities by dwelling on their most unpleasant experiences.
But I realize that being TOO compassionate is a lesser flaw than being insufficiently so. And while I personally feel too many people are too sensitive, I am able to realize that that does not really affect me negatively in any significant way. So I try not to think too much and too negatively about it when I perceive it.
Our brand of Capitalism has often been described (at least, by me) as Social Darwinism. Survival of the fittest.
We are – tragically – creating an ever larger number of people with metaphorical fractures. We are also seeing significant numbers of children born on the Autism Spectrum.
Beyond that – as in war – more people are making it home with grievous injuries than ever used to. They’d die in the theater of combat. We – gloriously – can keep warfighters and children and people alive who have significant deficits that represent deviations from the mean.
We have ginormous collective societal decisions to make about how we adapt and accommodate these people’s needs.
Or we persist with being more of a Social Darwinism nation.
I view the Americans with Disabilities Act as a milestone in the “Humanity” chapter of the American story. Even those on the rabid RW seem to have made peace with it.
I’ve told my personal story elsewhere. I’m in a long, horrible, lingering, and degenerative death simply because a community couldn’t be bothered to make the simplest of accommodations for my particular medical issues, and – because those issues aren’t immediately apparent to the unsophisticated observer – I was minimized, invalidated, gaslighted, demonized, pilloried, and neglected by all the systems and agencies empowered to help me.
We should evaluate what’s being asked of us at each stage on this frightening Slippery Slope, and then decide if today’s normal is really that much worse than yesterday’s. The only thing that’s constant is change. This is just change.
It also wouldn’t hurt us to get to know – even superficially – some of the beneficiaries of these minimal accommodations, asking them what the change means to their lives.
“It is nearly impossible to hate anyone whose story you know.”
–Andrew Solomon
“At the end of the day, I’d rather be excluded for who I included than included for who I excluded.”
–Reverend Eston Williams
The “rugged individualist” or “bootstraps” model is Social Darwinism. It’s a zero sum game.
Are we or are we not “our brother’s keeper?” To what degree?