Are you a Tolkien person or a Lewis person?

[Qadgop_the_Mercotan]

@Chronos

Oh, that’s perfectly normal for 14-year-old boys. We’ve all been through that stage.

Yeah, by that age I’d already mastered the Land O Lakes Indian Girl Butter trick.

[ISiddiqui]

@Trinopus

U.S. Christianity has a serious P.R. problem if, in fact, a majority of Protestants don’t actually believe in Hell, because the major publicity machines – radio and tv – are absolutely dominated by it.

Well, not necessarily a majority of US Protestants (there are more evangelicals than mainline), but a massive amount of them.

@Hector_St_Clare

The Eastern Orthodox don’t believe hell has been emptied. There is more tolerance of ‘hopeful universalism’ in the east than in Western Christianity, but they definitely still believe in hell. Here’s some discussion.
What is Orthodox Hell? | Eclectic Orthodoxy

"Whatever differences may exist between the Greek and Latin Fathers, they are united on the retributive, vindictive nature of the punishments of hell. A minority report does exist, of course—represented by Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Gregory of Nyssa, Isaac of Ninevah, and perhaps also Ambrose—but it is a minority report (see John Sachs, “Apocatastasis in Patristic Theology“; for an older, albeit flawed, presentation of universalism in the patristic period, see J. W. Hanson). Eventually the retributive views of Augustine in the West and the Emperor Justinian in the East prevailed. "

There is a tradition in the Orthodox Faith that Hell has been conquered and therefore, even if one says it isn’t empty right now, Hell is more of a Purgatory type of idea - where one works out their sins (see: “Christ The Conqueror of Hell” by Metropolitan Hilarion Alfeyev)

[Trinopus]

@Qadgop_the_Mercotan

Yeah, by that age I’d already mastered the Land O Lakes Indian Girl Butter trick.

Crikey! I didn’t learn that one till I was in my fifties!

[Walker_in_Eternity]

@Qadgop_the_Mercotan

Yeah, by that age I’d already mastered the Land O Lakes Indian Girl Butter trick.

Seems like a lot of work for not a lot of benefit to me.

[Thudlow_Boink]

@Walker_in_Eternity

Seems like a lot of work for not a lot of benefit to me.

Sigh Kids these days. Back in the old days, we didn’t have the internet, and we had to work for our titillation.

[jayjay]

@Walker_in_Eternity

Seems like a lot of work for not a lot of benefit to me.

You’re not a 14-year-old straight boy in an era without internet, either.

[Elendil_s_Heir]

Simulpost! Great minds, and all that…

[Elendil_s_Heir]

@Thudlow_Boink

That comment came, not from Lewis, but from Hugo Dyson—see this article which is well worth reading anyway for Tolkien enthusiasts…

That was interesting, thanks. But in this passage,

…there is just a strange moment when the hobbits are about to settle down to a meal with the elves, and the older, more dignified elves turn silently in prayer towards the east…

Wilson is mistaken, I think. It was Faramir and his Rangers in Henneth Annûn, their hiding-place behind the waterfall, who turned towards the west, to Valinor and lost Númenor, not Elves who turned towards the east.

[Grey]

nm

[Walker_in_Eternity]

@Thudlow_Boink

Sigh Kids these days. Back in the old days, we didn’t have the internet, and we had to work for our titillation.

Kids? I’m 44.

To be fair we probably only didn’t learn the trick because I’ve never seen that butter for sale in the UK.