Actually, Canada was there WAY before America was in WWII; but I guess to you, that’s besides the point.
I guess I hit a nerve when I condemned USA for giving shit to any other country who wasn’t “IN” with them, for Iraq ~ just like you weren’t IN with them in WWII. But you didn’t answer HOW MANY JEWS DIED BEFORE YOU GOT THERE? HOW MANY JEWISH DEATHS WERE ENOUGH BEFORE YOU GOT OFF YOUR ASSES?
So sit there and shoot your lousy mouths off as much as you want. People died and you sat by. So your self-righteous world-saving role goes RIGHT out the fucking window as far as I’m concerned. You’re a self-serving pompous GLUTTONOUS nation.
AND THE QUESTION REMAINS: YOU THINK WE ARE TOO PATRIOTIC? WTF HAS THIS WORLD COME TO? I bring this question up and you shoot down everything you can about Canada. What’s next? Maple syrup is poison? Assholes.
PS: I’m a FEMALE. You can refer to me as “she”, “her”, and “Cheeky”. But if you’re gonna say bitch, I would prefer the more formal: MsBitch.
Cheeky - Oh, you hit a nerve alright. You hit a big fucking nerve. It’s not because you’re so right that I can’t stand it, though. You hit a nerve because I spent a few years in your country being treated like SHIT because I was from a country that wasn’t IN WITH THEM. And I wasn’t a fucking tourist, either, I had immigrant status. I was just a fucking kid, and you fucking people couldn’t get over yourselves long enough to think that maybe I didn’t have that much to do with American foreign policy during the 40’s. Nope, I was getting put in my place, lemme tell you. And they all sounded exactly like you. Yeah, we’re the ones who are self-centered and pompous, but when we move there you never shut the fuck up about how superior you are.
And I did answer your question about how many jews died before I got off my ass. The same number as for you, so get the fuck over yourself. Your reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be that great, remind me of where I claimed that Canada didn’t get involved with WWII earlier than America? I just said that YOU were not more involved in it than ME.
Would you perhaps be claiming moral superiority because you live in a country that you believe bahaves in a way that is better than mine? It’s a good thing you AREN’T FUCKING PATRIOTIC, MORON.
Canada didn’t declare war until some Canadians died on a ship, so Canada didn’t care, either, and was only looking out for number one, Canada. And Canadian soldiers didn’t even fight until December 1941, and then got pounded (and that fight was against JAPAN!!!).
Shut up, Tars, you typical American swine! America was kicking babies and poking adorable kitties with sharp things while the Jews died! Canadian superhero Gordon Lightfoot personally beat up Hitler and saved the world!
Canada always acts nobly and in a morally correct fashion! And they certainly don’t think that they’re great or anything! Patriotism is distasteful to a people as fine as the Canadians. Cheeky is a fine example of a Canadian who would never look down on someone just because they were from a country that “wasn’t IN with them”.
You are a jackass. You are a moron. You have a displaced sense of country. You are an embarasment to Canadians everywhere. My grandfather, who served in WWII thinks that you’re pants.
Really. Stop now. Read a book. Read a history book.
And finally, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Lucky - you better zip it too - you’re really close to saying something that’s going to make you look foolish
First, Miller, if you think “What the US chiefly did (in WWII) was prevent the Russians from ‘liberating’ Western Europe”, then you are dumber than I thought. And you do a great disservice to the many Americans who lost their lives in that conflict, and the great sacrifice this country made.
Second, the US entered WWII in 1941; the US entered the European conflict of the War in 1942. Not exactly “at the very end”, is it? Go read a fucking history book, Cheeky.
Third, the US and Canada are most certainly NOT equal. (Which doesn’t mean one is better than the other.) I’m sorry that it bothers you so much, but in terms of world affairs and international influence, the US far exceeds Canada. Not to mention economic power, social and cultural export (for better or for worse – more often worse, IMHO), and military might, to name but a few. Natural resources – you guys are miles ahead.
Frankly, due to Canada’s relatively tiny importance on the world stage, I can’t quite see what you’re getting all worked up about. It won’t make a bit of fucking difference.
I guess you threw that argument out the window by now. But using the article as your premise, you should have read it before going off into a rant. Given that our chat room experiences could be quite different, I always thought it was common knowledge that chat rooms are not credible representation of a population. Hell, with people IMing you asking you if you want to cyber, throwing around “LOL” here and there, and misspelling word after word, what did you expect?
Are you aware that Canadians (along with many other countries) turned away the Jewish refugees when they were trying to escape Germany and other countries taken over by the Nazis? If you want to talk about discrimination and world war two, why don’t you look at what we did to the Japanese? We took away their posessions and moved them inland away from everything they had established. What does that say about us? I guess that makes us scum of the world because of what we did sixty years ago. :rolleyes:
I’d like to remind everyone that the OP certainly does not speak for the Canadians on this board. Hell, she doesn’t speak for a majority for Canadians. So, if you will, don’t think of it as Canadians vs. Americans, think of it as “Well informed intelligent people” vs. “Ill informed biased assholes.”
alice - Honestly, I’m perfectly aware that not all Canadians are like Cheeky. Please try not to be too offended by my ranting, I went too far there. Cheeky was by dumb luck semi-right about something, in that she correctly stated she had hit a nerve of mine.
I did not exaggerate my personal experience as an immigrant to Canada. Literally every day someone went out of their way to give me shit because I was from a country that they had decided wasn’t good enough for them. The fact that these people almost universally used the same hypocritical, ignorant arguments that Cheeky is using in here means that I’m prone to getting overemotional about this particular flame war. I suffered daily for years as a result of this kind of attitude, and thus I have very little tolerance for it.
You, of course, haven’t expressed anything of the sort, and don’t deserve to be lumped in with the people who do. Sorry if I made it seem that way. It’s finals week. I’m short on sleep, wired on coffee and cigarettes, and stressed to the breaking point. I’ve been taking board breaks to relax, and it didn’t work out as well as it might have.
It’s like, a lot of people in Europe somehow manage to recollect their neighbours’ leaders, and they have more to remember. And we remember who the American leader is. But somehow we don’t expect that the Americans will remember who ours is. (Or that we already have insulin or FM radio, or that we don’t abandon our elderly on ice floes, or that Quebec has no king…) That’s what the show was satirizing.
Apparently it has come to a 32 year old women slavering over the views of a bunch of Americans. A little provincial don’t you think? Hell I find the smug self-assurance that foreigner wont screw you over simply because you have a swath of fabric idiotic to the point of terminal stupor.
If you seriously think Canada went to war to rescue the Jews from Hitler you’re making an even bigger mockery of being Canadian than I originally thought. Besides, we consciously threw the Jews back into the fire, the American’s simply remained neutral. From Citizenship & Immigration Canada
I would like to point out that I, a stupid American, have somehow managed to unearth the name of your Prime Minister. I know, it’s weird, but it’s apparently not a state secret. I also learned the name of the dude who’ll be replacing him soon.
What I’m still unclear on is why exactly Mr. Martin is replacing Mr. Chrètien.
Help me out here. Please remember that I attended public schools, so use small words.
In Canada, the leader of the majority party is the Prime Minister - they are not a seperatly elected person, as your President is.
So - Jean go way old. He retired. The Liberal Party (current majority govt.) elected a new leader - Martin (our former Finance Minister and long time Liberal Caucas member).
So - Martin is now the PM. However, he’s kind of a PM in waiting - he has all the usual power and whatnot, but no one really considers it , ya know, official, until he wins an election as the Prime Minister.
Way back in the day, Kim Campbell was the PM for a few months and in that time managed to so alienate her constituents that not only did the Conservative party win only 3 seats (instead of the 140 or so it had previously), she didn’t even win in her own riding - Jean became the head cheese.
Mmm, I know how it works, but I picked up from … somewhere … maybe some discussion on LiveJournal, that Chrètien wasn’t entirely pleased about stepping down, that he was being forced by factions in his own party. Maybe I misunderstood.
Does he have the biggest igloo of them all? Does he have to wear the funny red jackets and hats like the police? How do you guys get by with snow on the ground all the time and stuff?
Just to clarify, Martin is not now the PM. He will not be any kind of PM until Chrétien resigns (albeit in three days.) After that, he won’t be the PM until the Governor General appoints him, which will be pretty much immediately afterward.
At any rate, an election is expected in the spring.
