Are you worried about violence if Harris wins?

You don’t think he’ll call for violence again? I think it’s inevitable. As we get closer to the election and Kamala continues her momentum, his rhetoric will get more and more violent. I expect the violence will be less organized and more terror-like, with election officials targeted. This will continue until the inauguration. There may be some organized attempts, but we’ll be much more prepared and those will be put down quickly.

And Mike Pence.

Yes, but I don’t think he will be out there, in public, talking to a mob of armed people and trying to whip them into a frenzy. Because that is why it happened. That is absolutely not going to happen again.

You recall how Trump requested that the metal detectors be removed, and when someone (the Secret Service?) warned Trump that people were armed, his reply was, “They’re not here for me.” Well, since then he’s been shot by one of his followers. There is no way he’s going to do another January 6.

He might tweet out a call to arms or whatever, but it isn’t going to have nearly the same effect.

That might very well be, but I was addressing the fact that we aren’t going to see another January 6 incident. I would, though, count on someone being violent at some point, because that’s just what happens these days.

Yeah, I am not suggesting is wasn’t as close as it was, just that the suggestion there was a “steal” going on was absurd then, as it will be this year.

Exactly. He’s not President this time. He wont be able to stage a rally on government grounds, with all the cameras set-up. If anything, he’ll go back to The Four Seasons Landscaping and set-up shop there again.

A Democrat In Everything But Name (DIEBN, which is an anagram of “Biden”, so you know it’s true!).

Eta: I’m a little drunk abd can’t speel gud.

I hadn’t even considered that angle but you’re 100% correct.

I enjoyed this, but I think we should be more accurate. For MAGA, you are loyal to Trump, or you are an enemy, no matter your Republican/Conservative/Etc credentials. The term RINO doesn’t even have meaning anymore when applied to individuals such as Cheney, who beats MAGA on any actual “Republican” points. MAGA is it’s own thing, just using the framework of the former Republican party as a puppet.

So again, any enemy regardless of their political orientation is “the enemy” and fair game to Trump and the MAGA crazies if they aren’t absolutely loyal. The reverse is sometimes true for Trump as well - look at the early days of RFK Jr.'s effort to run as a Democrat - if it’s helpful to Trump, they can be tolerated or even endorsed.

This is what I’ve been thinking, but the violence won’t be limited to election officials. MAGAts can’t fathom that Trump can lose fairly, so they’ll be whinging about the “steal” for weeks before the election, and of course Trump will egg them on.

So, if a Harris victory appears imminent, I’d expect some of the crazier MAGAts to run cars off the road for sporting Harris bumper stickers, to firebomb polling places in blue neighborhoods (before or during the election), and to commit random violence against people of color. Because any and all of those targets will be in on the “steal” and must be stopped.

You don’t think he actually believes the shooter wasn’t a Democratic Party operative? What’s more important is that his followers believe the shooter was a Democratic Party operative.

Speaking of which…

As his standing in the polls slides, Trump ramps up false attacks on election integrity

As he peers out at a new political reality, with Vice President Kamala Harris having reversed Democrats’ slide in the race for the White House, former President Donald Trump is rolling out pre-emptive excuses for a possible second defeat. Most are demonstrably false.

And his idjits believe him. They still believe the Big Steal lie regardless of actual evidence against it.

And why should he? He’s shown he doesn’t give one about cops and many of them support him. He’s shown he doesn’t give one about the military and many of them support him.

Not just an enemy, but a traitor. And he, his flacks, and his followers all demand traitors be hanged publicly.

But now those same operatives might be in the crowds, just like those Antifa infiltrators that started the riots.

This raises an interesting question I have no clue on the answer.

What, if anything, is the “official” RW / Faux / QAnon narrative of the assassination attempt? Whatever they’re saying, I grant completely that it has negligible basis in actual fact.

But what are they and their MAGAt-o-sphere followers saying is their version of events? Presumably by now they’ve converged on a single sorta coherent superficially plausible narrative. At least if you’re an ignorant MF dumb enough to swallow it.

I’m quite happy to remain insulated from their angry fantasy world.

Here’s one tweet from my feed. I won’t do him the courtesy of linking to it:

I’m worried either way. You know, you drink when the home team wins, you drink when the home team loses, you drink when the game gets rained out. Violence is the new drinking.

History is just a MadLib to them. If the words fit in the blank spaces, that automatically makes them true.

Never mind.

It’s like in the horror movies: "Don’t open the door! That isn’t your brother—That’s the thing that killed your brother!!

It’s like those parasites that take over an insect’s brain from within and they use the unfortunate insect as a meat puppet.

I think the most commonly used (by myself, and for some others) is the Edgar Suit from Men In Black. You take an entity which was by itself a conglomeration of terrible traits, but at least within normal levels of horrible, and replace it with an unspeakably malignant, deadly, and absolutely aggressive creature which is literally wearing the skin of the prior being, which is constantly decaying.

It is worth noting that the prior Edgar, much like the GOP, was a woman abusing, gun worshipping, waste of human potential like so many of the current supporters.

This is genius. I’m going to use this in conversation if you don’t mind. Heh, “Egger.”

Like RKK jrs brain worm?

Just FYI- Edgar has a shotgun- on a farm- like nearly every farmer does. If Edgar is a gun worshiper, you are calling farmers that. I will concede your other points.

Edgar’s attitude is far closer to the magic thinking of guns than the rational use of a shotgun against farm pests. I for one (spoilers for a 30+ year old movie) would NOT challenge an alien who just crashed on my farm with an firearm, talk smack to it while brandishing said firearm, and then point the gun away RIGHT after threatening the alien with it.

That’s firearm bravado, not sane or responsible use. :slight_smile: Something I am fully willing to distinguish between farmers and ranchers with shotguns and rifles to keep varmits and predators away from their crops and livestock (which I include among my extended family).

He also says the cliche about “you can have my gun when you take it from my cold dead hands” which means he toes the NRA line at the time.