Yes the kids are getting “snarky” these days.
Okay, so that’s an accurate, objective fact: yeah,…I am getting old.
But you know what else is an accurate, objective fact?
Their music sucks.
There, now i feel better…
Thank you 
When being irreverent is the norm, subversion of the established is expected, being “out of f*cks to give” is considered a virtue, of course you will see the testing of boundaries going further… because the boundaries have moved further.
I do hope to live to see what is it that will shock or dismay the GenZ-ers about THEIR kids…
Also, they persist in being on my lawn.
The type of snark is different, but the level is about the same as it’s always been.
Do you not watch tv or movies?
It’s all snark (or snark adjacent), all the time!
Go for the laugh, it’s clearly what is admired by adults, that’s why it’s everywhere.
OP, where do you think they’re getting it from?
Funny or disrespectful is so much in the eye of the beholder, without an example no one can know whether or not you have a point. I don’t think anyone here, thinks it’s okay for children to be truly disrespectful to people. Likewise I highly doubt anyone feels it’s okay to stifle a child being funny, or trying anyway.
I agree with the wise folk here who’ve pointed out that it’s always been this way. 1950s teens were as snarky as today (Ever watch Dobie Gillis?). And we were just as sarcastic in the 60s.
As a teacher, I’ll tell you that today’s students wish they were as rapier-witted as we were.
lobotomyboy, I’d really like to know what the grandkids said/did that was objectionable. And, nothing personal, but I’d also like to know what you were saying to them.
See, I have an Aunt C who used to deliberately push my buttons. She was overbearing in a lot of ways, like during sing-alongs she was always the loudest, but she often focused on me (and other niblings? IDK). Her MO was to take some tiny little issue that wasn’t even bad behavior, and harp on it until she got me to lose my cool. For instance, she and my mom and I were going out to lunch. She asked where my handbag was; I didn’t have one. Well, how could a proper young lady go to Snooty Restaurant without a handbag? Why didn’t I have one? And on and on, in a way that she might have thought was teasing, but to me sounded like Gunnery Sgt. Hartman. So after a few rounds of this, I would bellow, “I’M SORRY, OKAY?!” At which she would threaten me with a “tone-of-voice lesson.” And then my mom would intervene. But she never piped up when this was getting started, that I recall.
Years later, like late teens/early twenties, my mom told me a couple things about Aunt C. First, that if anyone was a brat when they were a kid, it was her. She was the fifth out of six children, and when youngest Uncle J was born, she cried every day for a year. “Every day?” “Every day.” “For a year?” “For a year.” “Why do you suppose she stopped?” “Dunno, but even when she did stop, my mother, your gramma, had already gotten in the habit of giving in to her to shut her up.” And the second thing was that Aunt C had had a baby as a teenager, and given it up for adoption. (My mom was married and living away, and was only told in advance of her Christmas visit, to avoid awkwardness.) So my mom’s theory was that a) Aunt C was trying to erase her own bratty behavior by crusading against it in other peoples’ kids and b) the early pregnancy, plus not keeping the baby, may have put her further out of whack, emotionally and physically.
So my point is, I’m not making any claims about lobotomyboy, but some adults are spoiling for a fight every time they deal with a kid that’s not theirs.
OK Boomer. That disappeared quickly enough.
I do watch TV but a lot of what I watch is documentaries—not much of network or kids’ stuff. And I don’t watch many current movies. If we’re talking about actually going to a theater, I get there maybe once a year. I’m too cheap and uninterested to PPV.
ISTM that the process goes like this. Kids see or hear something to imitate, which means either parents allow them to hear/see it or they sneak it. Then they imitate it in front of others. As posted upthread we may talk tough among our buddies, but in front of parents we may act differently.
TV, movies don’t seem as clean as they once were. I overheard some 13 year olds talking about “50 Shades of Gray,” for instance…did the parents know they were watching that or did they not care?
@LegendsofClear points one out with the video. Where did the kid hear that? And what made him think it was ok? And why didn’t he back down after the first correction? Do daddy and mommy say those things every day at home? As someone posted upthread, a lot comes back to what people let you get away with—think it all you want, but saying it is a different thing.
Sure, the kids aren’t staying up late to devise snappier comebacks. This time I noticed a lot of “nipple” comments from them—not sure where they’re getting that.
TV and movies pale in comparison to what’s on the internet.
In general they’re at an age where you hesitate to take them to the store because they’re all about slapping and tickling each other, wrestling as they walk, so you wonder when they’ll knock over a display. When Mrs. L tries to get them to stop it doesn’t always go well. Rather than them realizing the gig was up and settling down, they’ll say something like, “That’s what YOU think” etc. Nothing devilishly clever, but unrelenting.
At first it was ok. By the end of the weekend it had worn pretty thin. Individually they’d probably be fine but they show off for each other, so there’s the fuel I guess.
As I write this, I realize that must be it…they’re showing off for each other. Thanks all!