Armed raid into Syria

Somehow I doubt it.

Given that the Bush administration was calling the inspectors who had been there, hadn’t found anything, and were very doubtful that there actually WAS anything to find (Hans Blix, for one) liars, I doubt it, too.

Attacking Syria is likely to get Syrians who hate us to attack the US in Iraq. It will create a larger pool of enemies. Going into Pakistan will add to our woes too. We keep creating more enemies. Good plan.

Absolutely. If the only alternative to doing nothing about a problem is to do something that will make things worse then doing nothing is the correct thing to do.

Actions like this just sow dragon’s teeth. Whether or not civilians were actually killed people will believe they were.

International law clearly says every nation MUST STOP any groups from using their territory as a base for attacks. If Syria is allowing ANYONE to use it’s territory it is in violation of international law.

Did Syria do this? Yes

International law clearly says if a nation can’t control it’s own borders the effected nation has a right to go into that nation and put a stop to the attacks.

This was one of the reason Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia starting WWI, as Serbia was allowing people to use its territory for raids into Austria-Hungary

Don’t we have to prove Sryia is allowing it? We have no credibility. If the government is not complicit ,then a foreign government has invaded their territory. There are proper channels for such stuff.

and your reasoning behind Obama changing his position on troop withdrawal?

Uh oh. Say, did anyone remember to get the permission of the sovereign government of Iraq to use its soil for an attack on a neighboring country? Minor point, I’m sure, but still, its nice to dot all the "I"s and cross the "T"s, don’t you think?

International law applies to* them*. We are exempt from such tiresome vexations.

According to who ? And don’t say “America”; America’s word is worthless.

And that worked out SO WELL for Austria-Hungary.

He’s a standard weaselly politician who says what will get him elected. Which still makes him better than a Republican; almost anything is better than that.

Obama’s position on troop withdrawal doesn’t mean shit to a tree. The only position that matters any more is the Iraqi Gov position, and that is increasingly “Here’s your hat, there’s the door, hello, you must be going”.

Still, nice try.

You don’t actually think he’ll answer that, do you? :stuck_out_tongue:

Wow. Don’t even need to comment on that one. Aw what the hell… Do you actually read what you write or do you think spell check corrects content as well?

If you have trouble understanding, all you need do is ask. Bless your heart, we’re here to help.

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The only help for some is professional. The right-wing is going to be a bleating flock of sheep for the next long while, 'luci, repeating the talking points they’re fed. Don’t work too hard trying to do the impossible.

Around here, we live in the real world.

Well we know spell check works. “Obama’s position on troop withdrawal doesn’t mean shit to a tree.” That makes me laugh every time I read it. You should make that part of your signature.

Outreach, JayJay, outreach. Or reach around. Depending on circumstances.

Bullshit.

So why did Obama change his mind?

Youi skipped the part where you demonstrate that he *did *change his mind.