As I’ve said before, this war will only end when NATO troops deploy openly in Ukraine, and not before

[Broomstick]

@Machine_Elf

I’m sure. I think the only way out of this is ratcheting up sanctions until the Russian populace is so miserable that civil unrest becomes a major concern for Putin.

Based on past history that will have be a LOT of misery. Truly incredible amounts.

Keep in mind North Korea and the level of misery imposed there by sanctions, and yet they keep on with their system.