Ask the (former) stagehand/stagemanager, director and all around theatrical jack of all trades

This thread is really interesting!

I work front-of-house at our local theatre, so I am merely as a child amongst adults here.

I completely agree with this. We want people to feel that their afternoon or evening out at the theatre has been worth it. I’d say that’s probably all that really matters to us.

In parallel with what others have already said about this, licensing is also an issue. Some playwrights are very definite about their text not being meddled with.

A while back our theatre got some negative comments in at least one industry magazine, because a company performing there had made dialogue cuts. The licensing was entirely clear that this wasn’t permissible. Unfortunately the director had decided at almost the last minute to cut for time (:smack:)… As such, it was rather galling that it was the theatre that got the negative press, and that the company responsible wasn’t even mentioned. :mad:

I believe there was talk about having to pay what amounted to a fine for this having happened, but I don’t know what the eventual outcome was.

Right. Forgive me if I get this a bit wrong, it’s been a while since I had to deal with the union rules (you may notice I bring up union rules a lot, that’s my SM experience talking) but there are some rules that govern this sort of thing.

If it’s public domain you can more or less do what you want with it. If it’s a new work there is a good chance that you will be working with the playwright and changes that are made with be made in collaboration with the author. If it is a non public work then you can edit out without asking permission (I believe)*, but can not add or change. Up thread I talked about a production that I worked on where the Director started making script changes without asking permission and the whole production almost sank when the playwright found out. It’s serious stuff, and written into the rights of the production.

There is a rumor that I have heard more than once that Jim Jacobs (co-writer of Grease) makes his primary living these days traveling around the country to see productions of his play and then suing when they invariably include music from the movie that wasn’t in the original stage play.

Stuff gets edited down for time a lot, particularly older stuff. Hamlet, for example, is over 4 hours long in it’s entirety and most plays aren’t commercially viable if they are much more than 2 hours long, so you start making cuts.

Edit: I see that I am wrong about cuts being ok on all productions. Thinking about it, that makes sense.

Depends on the actor and the part. Usually not more than a few weeks. As a director I like to get actors on their feet as soon as possible because I feel that movement helps with memorization and you can’t really start working on performances until everything is memorized.

Again, this depends, but everyone goes up on occasion. Hopefully it doesn’t happen in performance, and if it does you hope that everyone is sufficiently prepared so that they can cover.

Not really. Memorization seems harder than it is. It’s something that you get better at the more you practice too.

This is true, although I would amend “primary living” to “subsidiary living”, as I’m certain the money those guys make on royalties alone is enough to sustain a small village for centuries. But (and I don’t want to delve too much into royalties since we’ve had other threads about it) Grease is a good example because everyone wants to do “Hopelessly Devoted to You” in their stage show, but it was written specifically for the movie. So people–ignorantly or not–just get the music from the movie book and add it to their show. Don’t do that. At least not without permission, which they do grant from time to time.

OK, so the playwright absolutely forbids any mucking with his work, but an actor accidentally skips a whole paragraph of dialog. The show continues, everyone smoothly compensating.

Does the playwright get to sue then?

He can file a suit for any reason he wants. I doubt he’d win that lawsuit, tho.

ETA: This is a silly hypothetical. Playwrites aren’t monsters, slavering and ghoulish and prone to lop off heads for a mistake. Would he/she be mad? Prolly. Would some bitching to the actor’s face be in store? Prolly. Lawsuit? No.

For a fluff? No. Although all sorts of mad things happen in the world of theatre, so I suppose it might’ve happened once somewhere…
We have another issue at our theatre. Because we’re in the outskirts of London, we’re usually prohibited from performing a play/show if it’s running (or has recently run) in the West End. (Obviously this doesn’t apply to stuff that’s out of copyright.)

The restrictions on what can and can’t be performed and what changes can be made to non-public domain material very rigorous. We recently decided on our slate of titles for next season and one of the candidates was Fiddler on the Roof. This particular choice came with a caveat. It seems a couple of production companies are talking about mounting another national tour of Fiddler, to squeeze the last of the life out of a particular leading man, and if they do, then the rights won’t be available for us to purchase a license if our town is on the tour. There are nine major publishing houses listed on the musical theatre 101 site(one of my go-to sites when helping put together a season). This particular link leads to the show breakdown page where it shows which publishing house handles the rights for a particular show. Several have a link which says “see note below” and this is how the note reads.

The Samuel French Company, one of the above-mentioned major publishing houses, has a pretty standard, i.e. very restrictive, license for what you can do with plays in their catalog.

Dead people retain a lot of creative control through Samuel French, but at least they’re up front about it.

For another take, I’ve always loved the way Dramatists Play Service handles it’s Frequently Asked Questions. Here’s a couple of examples.

In addition to pulling the rights for shows so we can’t even produce them, sometimes even more bizarre requests come down. A couple of years ago we put on Don’t Dress for Dinner and got a cease and desist letter from a production being staged in New York because our promotional material, independently designed and produced, looked too much like what they were planning on using. So we had to go back and re-design our season posters, flyers, mailers, etc. Odds are we could have won if they had brought a lawsuit, since their stuff wasn’t even public yet there’s no way we could have stolen it. But avoiding a lawsuit is usually the best way to go, so we bit the bullet and re-designed our stuff. Luckily we had just posted it online and not sent it to the printers yet.

Enjoy,
Steven

Can you talk about dramaturgy a little bit? An old friend of mine is a scenic and lighting designer (and now is a theatre professor at a midwestern university)** and has often gently prodded me to get a PhD in dramaturgy so that we could work together, but she’s never quite explained to me what it is, and the wiki article makes my eyes glaze over for some reason.

I gather it’s the staging and design of the play? My friend made it sound like it involved a lot of knowledge about history (e.g., when you’re designing a room for the stage, you need to know what kind of furniture was in vogue at the time of the action, was electricity available to people of this social class…that sort of thing). But isn’t that the scenic designer’s job? You need to know about the context in which the play was written, its social implications, and so forth…but isn’t that also the director’s job?

So what’s it all about? :slight_smile:
**The question about the file folders at the end of Democracy reminded me: this friend moved to NYC a few years ago (before her current job) to work in theatre there, and one of the jobs she got was cleaning up the fake blood for the musical version of The Evil Dead. That’s all she did – mop up puddles of fake blood.

We are still finding blood in my theatre from that show…:frowning:

Funny story, one day after that show we had our group of people mopping up blood when a police officer happened to wander by. Well he sure did think we were cleaning up a crime scene, and the crew had to bring him backstage and show him the whole rig and prove there was not some mass murder. The funny thing is that before the show opened we let the police know that there would be groups of people leaving the theatre covered in fake blood and not to worry. Apparently that message didn’t get passed along.

How did you get in a relationship with a costume designer if you’ve never worked in costumes?

It sounds like I may be the only producer in the thread, and while directors, technical directors, etc. definitely have budgetary responsibilities, it’s really the producers who manage the financials. We’re a large community theatre, with a regular five show season, and are resident artists at our city’s arts center. We also produce “edgy” art-house style shows in our studio space. We have a children’s theatre arm, and are generally pretty mainstream and family friendly. We don’t pay our actors, although we do offer a gas allowance because we are in a very sprawled market. We do pay our directors, designers(scenic, lighting, sound, costume), and carpenters a per-show stipend. This is generally not enough to require us to issue 1099s unless you work on more than one show per year with us. Our musicians are union, so they make union money and are generally paid hourly. They supply their own instruments with the exception of the piano. Pretty much everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, else is highly variable. Budgets are set by show and what the show requires. A musical is generally much more expensive than a straight play, and some shows have huge costume requirements while others are straightforward on costuming but require ornate sets. In the past year we’ve had budgets for costumes range from $250 to $3,000, and for sets ranging from $500 - $4,500. It’s entirely driven by the show and the artistic team, led by the director.

Here’s a couple examples.

The Diary of Anne Frank. This show doesn’t require much in the way of special costumes. A couple trips to thrift stores would do it, or if the company was a long established company, they could probably pull the costumes from stock. We were considering this one for our upcoming season and costumes weren’t something we were worried about at all. A minimal budget for some time for our costume designer to alter some stuff or do incidentals like a Nazi armband and that’s about it. The set on the other hand needs to have that “confined space” feel, so the walls need to be fully built and the boundaries of the Franks world need to be solid in a traditional interpretation of the show. Set dressing and props would be a very high budget area too because you have people who live their entire lives in this room and you need groceries, toiletries, bedding, etc.

A Few Good Men. This show requires enormous costume commitments. Military dress uniforms aren’t just something you can pull out of thrift stores or fake easily. You’ll probably need a military costume consultant, or even more than one because multiple branches of the military are involved. Rank insignias need to be acquired or fabricated, there’s just an enormous amount of detail that goes into the costuming for this show. The uniforms need to be tailored to the performers because they would be tailored on a real JAG or Marine. The set can be a couple of tables and a few chairs pulled in from the lobby. Literally.

It’s a very broad field and I guess the best I can do is to give examples. In Julius Caesar, if Shakespere had been working with a Dramaturgist, there wouldn’t have been a mention of a striking clock. In West Side Story, had Sondheim been working with a dramatist, this poor, nearly illiterate in English, sweat shop worker would not have had these lines in the song “I Feel Pretty”

That kind of complicated rhyme and wordplay just completely isn’t appropriate to the character, and Sondheim says this himself in his book, not to mention some of it may not even be in her limited English vocabulary.

Dramaturgists are the detail-oriented people. The ones which say “you can’t put a Navy JAG dress uniform on a Marine Corporal. This is what a Marine Corporal dress uniform looks like, use this instead.” They need broad knowledge bases, good investigative skills, and a lot of attention to detail. It’s a very specialized field, and if you’re your friend’s go-to guy for obscure bits of knowledge about a huge range of topics, that may be why she’s recommending the field to you.

Enjoy,
Steven

It is essentially a researcher. It’s actually very cool, and if I am able I want to go back and get my masters in dramaturgy (sort of. The program isn’t exactly that, and I would then follow it with a doctorate in criticism. And a Directing MFA…). Sort of a pipe dream, but I dig dramaturgy a lot. It’s more than just historical verisimilitude, it’s also research into the playwright, historical context of the show, etc etc. Anything you might need to research about a play is the purview of the dramaturg.

Well, we met when I was directing a production of the dream while I was starting college, she was brought on as the assistant designer and one thing led to another.

I ended up dating a playwright for a while after meeting in similar circumstances.

Actually now that I think about it, I met my wife because of a show I was working on too (she was my ASM’s best friend). I really didn’t have anything that resembled a life outside of the theatre for a long period of time.

Want to hire an awesome music director/pianist? :slight_smile:

We only do one musical a year, much to my dismay because I’m a huge fan of musical theatre. I have season tickets to all the local groups who do more than we do and hardly ever miss a chance to work on one. But they’re a bitch to put together and I completely understand why we only do one a year.

Sorry,
Steven

What is done with the research, then? Does the director use it to frame his/her approach to the play, or is it just used as background info?

I am not familiar with this show. Is the audience splattered with blood, or do you just not have showers for the actors?

Both. The cast ends up saturated at the end and there is a section of the audience that pays a premium to get splattered. We are talking about singing and dancing zombies here.

Those damn Candarian demons…