Ask the Librarian

That appears to be an interlibrary loan program for getting books from outside the system. Those tend to be pricey and $3 is actually on the cheap side.

Rarely, but it happens all the time in more urban libraries.

Yes, the news will often mention libraries as places people can go to beat the heat when it gets really hot in the summer.

Yes we get a lot of kids, no they’re not really disruptive (but sometimes they are) and yes, I do feel like a babysitter sometimes.

A lot of books get stolen every year. I don’t have any hard numbers, but it’s easily a few hundred a year.

Yes and yes. Nobody uses them anymore though (not even the librarians).

No, they don’t. They use the Internet for that. Dating websites are rarely classified as porn, so it’s extremely common to walk past a man looking at a giant schlong under a title banner saying “Gay Dating” or some such.

There’s still officially a “no chat rooms” policy, but I haven’t had someone ask about using chat rooms in years. Email is fine and I spend a good portion of the day helping people with their email (of course I’ll help you upload that picture of a giant schlong). Everything else is pretty accepted.

This is the library named after my grandmother. Yeah, we’re kinda proud of it. :smiley:

Is your library named after someone? If so, do you know anything about that person? Do you have any of that person’s papers, or a picture?

I donated some pictures and some of my grandmother’s letters to me explaining about algebra to her library. She was a school teacher. Would you think that was cool, or weird? I thought it’d be good to have a picture of here there, somewhere. I also wrote a letter about the old library in town, which was in an old house, and how much I loved going with her there.

I miss her.

I am not a librarian, but in the interest of trying to quit buying so many books, I’ve started going to the library once a week…and I donate five or ten bucks each time. This impresses the hell out of the clerks who are doing the check out/check in thing. A couple of times, they explained that there’s no rental fee, and then I explained that I would have spent a couple of hundred dollars at the book store, and now they know that I’m good for a few bucks. But maybe I’ll bring in some edibles, too.

I’ve never had that happen, even once. However, this might be because I approach every librarian or page with respect, and only if I actually need help. In fact, when my daughter had to do research for various school projects, I asked someone for help with showing her how the microfiche worked (this was a while ago). Not only did I get help, but I had to intervene and tell the librarian that Lisa needed to learn how to do this stuff herself. On occasion, I’ve asked for book recommendations based on what I like, and even if the librarian didn’t know my preferred genre, if I asked for his/her favorite books, then I got some good recommendations.

However, I know how to find my way around a library, as I took Library Science 101 and Beginning Research in college…back in the Dark Ages, about 1980 or so. I appreciate the knowledge and skills a librarian has to offer.

Do librarians *really *routinely go on quests for magical artifacts?

Unfortunately the entire “system” has ~500,000 books, very few of which are on my reading list. I suppose there’s not much to be done about it; funding is extremely tight now, as it is most places, and libraries aren’t a huge funding priority. I’m assuming too large an ILL network becomes cumbersome, but I wish ours were larger.

It’s both funny and sad to search for authors to see what they do and don’t have. Maybe we have a librarian who “hates the stuff” too. Or maybe I’m just too rural for much selection. I’m not sure what area our local library system encompasses, but it’s more than one county.

Do you know how many books are in your entire ILL network?

My library is named after someone, but all I know about her was that she was the first librarian in town. I know we’ve got a short bio pamphlet of her in the local history section, but I couldn’t tell you when the last time someone looked at it was.

I’d think it was nice of you to do that, but I really wouldn’t have an opinion either way. Local history is like a black hole of stuff that a) no one knows we have and b) no one ever looks at because c) 99% of it is pointless. But anything you did to make it better would be seen as great.

Routinely? Nah. But a few days ago I went on a quest to find the mythical Source of the Wireless Internet and I think I was able to realign it to save humanity from a lack of wireless preventing the Cable Gods from smiting our service and having to recreate everything in their image.

I don’t have any specific numbers for the whole network but I know my library has about 85,000 - 90,000 books. If I were to ballpark the whole system, I’d say it’s conservatively in the neighborhood of 2 million. Probably a little more, but 2.5 million might be a stretch.

If a book I really want isn’t available at the library or through ILL, can I submit a request for it to be considered for purchase?

Can I donate books I no longer need?

What, generally, is the acceptable use policy for library computers? Is it ok to surf dating sites with nudity? Outright porn? Are there any free speech or censorship issues? Do you track what patrons are viewing? Can their records be subpoenaed?

What’s the most disgusting thing you’ve seen happen in the library? The most disgusting thing you’ve heard of?

Why don’t libraries offer a cafe / laptop area to keep up with the times (and entice patrons)?

What are some improvements you really want to see implemented in the public library system? Why haven’t they been?

For ebooks, why don’t libraries team up with Google to create a much bigger digital lending collection instead of relying on publishers to selectively release their titles?

Why did you become a librarian as opposed to, say, working for or opening a bookstore? Why do most librarians choose the job?

How do you feel about the word “monkey”?

Several of the local Fort Worth libraries do offer a laptop area. However, despite what the B&M book stores do, having food and drink around books that are not owned by the eater/drinker is not a good idea. Every library I’ve ever been in has forbidden food and drink, except for a very few areas in college libraries, where a student might be expected to put in long hours in the stacks.

Sure. It won’t guarantee that we’ll purchase it, but patron requests are always accepted (and encouraged)

Absolutely. We’ll look through them and some will be added, some will be donated to other groups, some will be sold in our book sale and your partially complete set of World Books from 1984 will be thrown away.

All public libraries are eligible for “e-rate” funding from the federal government, but one of the requirements is that they install an Internet filter, so the filter takes care of the nudity. Anything not blocked by the filter is considered fair game and it’s very rare for a site to be accidentally blocked.

No, we don’t track what patrons are viewing. The history is cleared after every user and the temp Internet files are erased every time the computer is rebooted. As such, there are no records to be subpoenaed.

One time, in the women’s bathroom, a women took four of the dixie cups we keep in the bathroom and lined them up along the sink. The first one contained urine and the last three contained her shit.

I honestly can’t think of anything that tops that.

Most libraries do actually.

I’m pretty happy with how the library does stuff for the most part, but I would like to see more acceptance of non-book materials like DVDs, CDs and video games.

No one tries to outright ban those things anymore (and most library boards recognize their importance), but the AV budget is only a fraction of the book budget simply because when people think of libraries they think of books.

I don’t understand. I’m sorry.

I actually toyed with opening a bookstore in my early 20s. But I crunched the numbers and realized that even if I could make it work, I would deep in the hole for a very long time.

I became a librarian because I’ve actually worked in a library since I was 15. I got a job shelving books and eventually moved up to desk clerk and then senior desk clerk. Being a librarian just seemed like the next logical step after I started thinking about how to make stuff more appealing to patrons all the time. I was working above my pay grade, so I just went for the degree.

As for other librarians, there’s an old joke that if you go around the class on the first day of library school and ask every student what their undergrad degree is in, they’ll all say history or english. And there is some truth to that. Many librarians (the majority I’d say) first went to library school because they couldn’t find a job after undergrad. But I’d say a good portion also do it after working in a library as a clerk for awhile. It’s kind of an addicting job, even though you’d never think so at first.

Sorry, I don’t read Terry Pratchett (I had to google to figure out what the hell you were talking about).

I understand. My undergrad degree was in religion - so of course I went to law school. :smiley:

Don’t know how the OP’s library handles it, but for my system when the Harry Potter books got hot with all age groups the policy was that ALL the kids on the waiting got the books first, THEN came the adults on the waiting list. The idea being that children’s books were for children first.

Seemed to work OK. I suspect that sort of issue doesn’t come up too often, but the mere fact they have a policy in place for wildly popular youth fiction tells me that they don’t bat an eye at adults browsing in that section.

Besides, you never know when a childless adult is having a niece/nephew/grandchild/godchild/neighbor over during which reading may ensue.

I think there are still people with no jobs who can’t afford a kindle. My system has heavy traffic on the library internet computers from job seekers who can’t afford to buy (or repair) a home computer.

This summer, I worked for a landlord cleaning out a rental home where the former tenant had abandoned large numbers of books. We threw out the ones covered in mold (there is a long story behind all this) but enough remained in good condition to entirely fill up the bed of my pickup (after me and the landlord had selected a few for ourselves). I drove to the library. I went to the main desk and said would they accept a large donation of books? They said sure, where were the books? I pointed to the red pickup in the parking lot full of books. They said come around back to the loading dock. I mentioned that they may not want some of the books. They said they’d take them all, and what they didn’t want would either be sold or recycled - and sure enough, by the loading dock was the biggest recycling bin for paper I’ve ever seen.

They also drafted a couple pages with carts to help us unload.

So… some books were saved from the dumpster for others to enjoy, those that weren’t usable were recycled, and I didn’t have to pay for disposal of books as trash. Seems like a win-win all around.

When I was a kid my mom told me that librarians were magic and could help you find any kind of information you could think to wonder about.

Ages ago (pre internet) when I was living in a tiny little town in the middle of nowhere without a car I called the reference desk of my local library and asked the nice librarian to help me figure out how to make bread pudding.

She couldn’t have been sweeter or more helpful, and the recipe she found for me was terrific. Do people ever call and ask for help with stuff that is not book or library related?

Just started a job at my local library about a month ago (I love it so far; I work the circ desk). Since I started there, there have been two (2) adult fecal accidents (one each in the men’s and women’s restrooms); two instances (so far) of bedbugs being found in our materials (I was present for neither of these incidents); one “baby” cockroach crawling out of a DVD case (I was present for this); and a middle aged woman who told me she was checking out some books about cats because she has, and I quote, an “emotional service cat (like a service dog, but a cat)” at home, and then straight-facedly inquired as to whether I’d seen any cats in the library checking out books.

My questions: Is your library as fun ‘n’ interesting as my library? And what are some of the wilder tales involving being a librarian that you can share with us?

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Absolutely. We’ll look through them and some will be added, some will be donated to other groups, some will be sold in our book sale and your partially complete set of World Books from 1984 will be thrown away.

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And please do not be offended when we do this. The incomplete World Books 1984 is not at all an exaggeration; these are some actual donations we’ve received at various places I’ve worked:

  • About 5 volumes (of dozens) of the Code of Florida [without the rest of the Code of Florida it’s completely worthless; with the rest of it it’s 99% worthless to somebody studying law in Alabama who can already access the Code of Florida a whole lot easier through the Internet and through various databases). This and a lot of other useless shit was donated by a woman who called us day after day after day and sometimes many times during the day asking us to send somebody to pick it up and then getting hostile we weren’t burning to take such a wonderful gift, and I was the one who finally got sent to pick it up and sure enough it was shit as we’d suspected it was. Got tossed.

  • Roughly a bazillion “How to make a fortune in _____” guides, most of them with pictures of guys in leisure suits on the front and titles in fonts that don’t exist anymore

-Roughly a bazillion “Lose 30 pounds a day on the _____ diet” books

-National Bugging Geographics Out the Asssssssssss- I’ll grant it’s a magazine I love to read but a) has anybody ever thrown an issue away? b) we really don’t have the space to house a donation to August 1979 through April 1994 of it

-1995 Road Map of Kentucky [actual item]

-a 3 volume leather bound gazetteer of South Korea- again, actual item, and for a research library this may have some value; to a tiny technical school where nobody speaks Korean and they don’t even teach a course in geography, it has, roughly, absolutely none

  • Romance novels (again, to a large and public library, the hardback ones may have some value, but to a small college library, NO.

We also receive boxes of straight-off-the-presses L. Ron Hubbard books from Scientology HQ about once every couple of years. They’re all mint condition. I’m sure they don’t just send these to our library so I’m guessing they send them to at least hundreds and probably thousands which makes me wonder how much they spend and how many libraries add them to the collection.

We have a book giveaway about twice a year (we’re so small and students only that we don’t even try to sell them) and usually succeed in giving away about 3/4 of the stuff donated. Not one of the L. Ron books has ever found a new home.

Most people are perfectly okay and don’t care if we give their stuff away or toss it in the garbage, but you do get people who are very upset it wasn’t added to the collection. (I have a horror story about a professor who donated his “Third World Library” to a college I worked at in Georgia but I’ll spare you other than to say most of it was major league CRAP and his tax deduction estimate made it look like the Donation of Constantine.)

I’ve also worked at some places that had some incredible stuff donated but we were the wrong library for it. These are things that have been donated to libraries where I’ve worked that were far from worthless, BUT were given to the wrong library:

  • The personal papers and many personal effects of “Miz” Lillian Carter (Jimmy’s mother); great stuff some of it, but the university and library simply did not have the money to archive it but neither have they ever been able to bring themselves to give it away, so it sits in inventoried archival boxes in a storage room where it’ll likely never be used.

  • An incredible record collection compiled over more than 50 years by an old blues singer turned music teacher that included albums from the dawn of recording technology and I am sure many only known copies- we’re talking thousands of disks- but again, the school simply had no money to catalog and accession and house them, but, also again, wouldn’t let them go (the monkey with his hand in the gourd type thing) so they’re in climate controlled purgatory

  • The many papers of a man who as a teenager had been a guard at Andersonville and who later become a doctor and a legislator- not famous but he left detailed notes on all kinds of things including an unpublished handwritten memoir of his time at Andersonville, handwritten instructions on how to perform various procedures (including abortion) on livestock (it wasn’t uncommon for doctors to service both humans and livestock), and materials from various state legislative hearings from the early 20th century. Most of it was in terrible condition- filthy and “fall apart when you touch it” condition, but of unquestionable historical value and- rinse later repeat- we couldn’t afford to do anything with it, BUT since it came no strings attached (it was donated by some descendant of the doctor who got it when cleaning out an old relative’s house and thought “this might be of use somewhere”) we did re-donate that one to the state archives.

Who had no money to do anything with it so it’s somewhere between the Ark of the Covenant and the gun that killed Garfield in its storage facility.
One library where I worked was offered a multimillion dollar collection of Japanese antiques, most of it in Samurai armor, weapons, and robes, all of it authentic and documented and centuries old. We turned it down because as much as we would love to have had it there was no way we could work the insurance, maintenance, display cases, etc., into our budget, even with the $25,000 one-time grant they were also willing to give. (Not sure whatever happened to those.)

So a point to mentioning the above: even if what you have is something really worth having,

We have a book giveaway about twice a year (we’re so small and students only that we don’t even try to sell them) and usually succeed in giving away about 3/4 of the stuff donated. Most people are perfectly okay and don’t care if we give their stuff away or toss it in the garbage, but you do get people who are very upset it wasn’t added to the collection. (I have a horror story about a professor who donated his “Third World Library” to a college I worked at in Georgia but I’ll spare you other than to say most of it was major league CRAP and his tax deduction estimate made it look like the Donation of Constantine.)

So if you ever want to donate the papers of your uncle the double Nobel Prize winner or your grandmother the Civil Rights icon or your dad who cured every disease that begins with a W, do some research first. If you’re fine with it staying in the storage room indefinitely and just want it out of the house and a tax break, then Freddy Joe Hickenlooper Junior College is fine and they’ll probably take it, but if it’s something you actually want available to the public you’ll probably want to go with a much bigger and, more importantly, richer place. That’s one reason Harvard gets so much stuff related to people who’ve never had any connection whatever to Harvard- they have the money and the staff to take care of it.

Prime example was Gore Vidal: he never attended college anywhere and donated his papers to his father’s alma mater the U. of South Dakota (where there’s a Vidal building named for his pa), and he donated the papers of his grandfather, Senator Thomas Pryor Gore of Oklahoma, to the U. of Oklahoma. Why anybody in academia was insane enough to accept a substantial gift from Gore Vidal without thinking he’d be a complete and total control freak in the first place is beyond me, but somehow they did and at both universities had to deal with him constantly hovering like a hawk and complaining they weren’t moving fast enough and then becoming furious when they asked him for money to catalog and accession and house the items he’d donated. (You’re talking about thousands of man hours of labor involved there and most public universities just don’t have the resources to do that for a collection that’s never going to be of more than limited interest and need.)
Ultimately he took them all back- a right that was in his original bequest contract and which I would guess they were more than happy to comply with- and donated both collections to Harvard, where he’s probably still driving the people absolutely bananas but they do have more money and people and facilities to dedicate to them.

Actually, I could repurpose a lot of those books and items. There was a fad for purses made out of books for a while, and there is now or was quite recently a fad for altered books. Those World Books would have been perfect for these crafts. I’ve covered boxes and composition books with old maps (I get the maps at Half Price Books for a ridiculously low price), and made travel journals and vacation keepsake boxes. It’s nice if the road maps have some relevance to the particular trip, but it’s not necessary. For the “Make a fortune” and “Lose weight fast” books, the only alternatives, as I see it, are recycling or altered books again.

However, I did get pretty frustrated when my daughter left 9 Charlaine Harris books at our house. These were hardback books, and Lisa had read them once, I’d read them once, and neither of us wanted to keep them. Lisa said to sell or donate them, so I took them down to the local branch, and donated. And I found out that all donations are sold. Never mind that they had some books by the same author, and the books were in high demand. These books were in near fine condition. But the policy now is that all donations are sold, because most donations are junk that’s in poor condition. While I can understand why they’d do that, I would hope that they could look over the donations and see if there are books that the library would otherwise buy. I mean, those books cost over $25 each, when new, and even though the library would get a price break, they’d still take a loss if they sold the books that we donated and then bought the same titles.

This won’t prevent me from donating again, but it DOES make me wonder about the people who make the policies.

That is a stupid policy, especially since Charlaine Harris (even if it’s a title they don’t have) would take five minutes to copy catalog and once demand died down they could always sell it then. I understand the policy as a general rule but some exceptions are just common sense.