I don’t understand your question. The early Radio Shack computers were very proprietary so they had a high risk of becoming a huge headache and money sink for anyone who bought them (think of early HPs that needed their own OEM disks to reload). I felt bad when people bought them and I couldn’t come right out and tell them to not buy them (because I was an employee of Radio Shack).
There’s a difference between making a $2k computer investment and choosing between various types of feed that generally runs $6/bag. People know what species they’re feeding (dog, horse, cow). From there it’s pretty much just a question of how much they want to spend on feed/supplements. And, again… pretty much no matter what they purchase, it is accepted that it will be a pile of crap on the ground within a week or two (depending on how long a bag of feed lasts them).
Since then, I’ve gone on to sell multi-million dollar projects with relatively low likelihood of success. But the customers knew it going in and signed off on the contracts anyway because they felt I knew what I was talking about. So, it isn’t that I have a problem with sales or even data collection.
The OP of this thread and his ilk crack me up. I leave the ringer off my phone and check it periodically. If a number shows up repeatedly that I don’t recognize, it gets assigned a fun name like asshat. If they reach my voicemail but just hang up, they too get assigned a cute nickname like fucktard. Same goes for any actual messages that end up being from the likes of these people and then they go into the hilarious name pile with epithets like scumbag. So, if I ever see a call from any of these folks, I don’t bother to listen (or pay attention to in any way) anything they might have to say. They get zapped immediately. So, it doesn’t matter if you call once a day or once every ten minutes for the next century. You’re not getting to me and, at the same time, you’re not bothering me either. What a waste of your company’s resources.
But what’s the most amusing to me is the justifications in face of some of the points raised. 1.) Magic words to get the company to stop. 2.) No problem with continually wasting the minutes of those with cell phones. 3.) Not caring about unusual circumstances, IE: people who must leave their phones on due to sick relatives or what-have-you, but who work nights. Mostly though, it’s the insistence that it’s okay to continue to do something to someone who’d rather you not. I thought that was something we all learned in kindergarten.
And finally, your need to make money doesn’t excuse whatever job you have to do so. I’ve worked one of the cheapest jobs known to mankind (waitressing) and there’s always things that one can do in place of being a dick to others. Just saying.
Furthermore, since these establishments and their people always highly hype that they are LEGAL, then why don’t they display their business name and number prominently on caller ID? Let the public decide if they wish to help along XYZ Surveys or banish them into the cornfield? If you want to be treated legitimately, I’d say you need to act that way.
I built prototypes. Those that relied on existing technology had a high likelihood of success, those that required me to design and manufacture of underlying technology had lower likelihood of success. The customers were always informed of the potential failures BEFORE they signed any contract. So, if they wanted to try the project anyway, that was their option. Not everything in life is black and white, sometimes to make advancements we have to take risks. There is no ‘con artist’ about it.
Of all my contracts, only one came in at less than 100% of stated goals. That project had a single goal that only reached 80% (all other goals were reached). It failed because a hurricane flooded the data center that housed the mainframe required for the project. The customer opted to accept the 80% instead of waiting for the datacenter to be powered back on and IBM to get the mainframe back online.
So they all had “relatively low likelihood of success” yet they all cashed in. Awesome work. Or would that be lucky? I guess it all depends on whether you understand English or not. And if whether you’re bullshitting somewhere.
Yep, and these are the people on the lowest level of the company who simply do what they’re told for minimum wage at a job so universally hated that even a simple “Ask the…” thread gets bumped into the pit because the mods know it will end.
So hang up. Problem solved. And “pit bull aggressive” doesn’t really matter when you have the means to magically end the conversation at a push of the button.
Bolding mine. Look at that. You’ve already solved the problem. So why the fuck are you still so pissed about it?
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Let me know your number and time zone. I’ll start calling you randomly about 1 AM til 7 AM, your time. About a dozen times a night. Assuming you work during the day, this will get really old, really fast. Oh, and you can’t turn off the phone/put it in silence mode, either, because your job requires that you must be on that electronic leash, or possibly because you’re waiting to hear from someone in the hospital. Let’s add a teething baby to the mix, too.
Getting random unsolicited phone calls can be more than an annoyance. It’s hard enough for shift workers to get to sleep and to stay asleep. There are legitimate reasons for a company to call an individual, but it needs to be to the individual’s advantage as well as the company’s advantage. Phone surveys and telemarketing calls are only advantageous to the company, and not to the individuals that they are calling.
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I don’t know how to tell you this. Be patient with me. This is very difficult for me…
Are you fucking stupid? Do you think I live in some world devoid of political opinion calls and telemarketers? Maybe that I have a magic phone that only brings me calls from loved ones with only good news to tell me? :rolleyes: I deal with the same calls as everyone else in this thread. I’ve dealt with them likely under the same circumstances as everyone in this thread. I just don’t turn into an angry little shit about it.
It’s honestly not that hard. Really. Easiest thing in the world. They’ve wasted maybe five seconds of my time and made me press a button. This is something you get mad about? Such a big deal that you just have to piss on everyone connected with the industry?
I’m beginning to wonder whether the current hatred of telemarketers is fulfilling some sort of psychological niche for people who might have, in another time, vented their rage at niggers, Jews, poofters and women.
It’s fucken pathological, and the level of venom here is really interesting. Do all of you telemarketer-haters actually read the shit you’re writing? Do you seriously wish the evil outcomes upon other human beings that you pretend in these posts? :rolleyes:
Y’see, it’s OK to wish wrath against telemarketers nowadays, but it’s verboten to express the same against the other groups I mentioned above. Have you just transferred your internal anger to telemarketers?? Seems so to me.
BTW…we have your number.
Your phone number comes from local government records, any time you may have filled out a survey, the school your kids are enrolled in, any time you might have purchased something from a major retailer, any time you accessed medical, household or life insurance, any time you used your credit card at the same venue more than once or twice, any time you bought or sold a house, any time you rented or leased said house, any time you bought drugs at your chemist, any time you previously supported a charity of a similar ilk, any time you joined a gym or club or ANY OTHER FUCKING THING YOU’VE BEEN INVOLVED IN in the last 20 odd years. Please don’t ask where we got your number from. If you are so fucking ignorant as to not know, then it demeans us to have to tell you. Seriously.
And if you are so mortally offended by being called, just ask the person (yes, it’s a real person) on the other end of the phone to take your name off their list.
It’s dead simple. It really doesn’t hurt.
This is a community service post from your local friendly telemarketer.
Are you sure? 'Cause you’re sure *appearing *like one… maybe you only save it for message boards? Why is courtesy reserved for telemarketers? Couldn’t you have made the point without being rude?
Telemarketers choose to be telemarketers. They choose to be assholes who make having a landline a pain in the ass. I have zero sympathy for someone who willingly goes into a line of work that is intrusive, annoying, and downright dangerous. There is someone in our household who works shifts, and they need to be wide awake during many nights. But I also have a grandmother who is registered blind, and she only knows the number of our landline. She often calls needing painkillers and the like.
So people like you keep our ambulance driver awake all day with your incessant, stupid, utterly useless calls. Get a different job. The one you’ve got right now is worthless and nobody truly needs it around.
Ever so sorry, but I don’t presently have the time to respond to your questions. Please don’t take it as an affront to your person or your fine profession, for which I have nothing but the utmost respect. Fair warning: I am preparing to gently return the receiver to its cradle. I wish you the best of luck in your worthy endeavor and hope to hear from you repeatedly in the future! Good day, kind sir, and warm regards to your family!
This is the pit. If courtesy was desired, this thread wouldn’t have been moved. Don’t like when someone is rude to you? Imagine how the person on the other end of the phone feels.
LOL. So, courtesy for you is a *sometimes *thing. And at your discretion. It isn’t required *all *the time.
The pit allows you to rude, it doesn’t require it. If you are trying to teach courtesy, it is always good to practice it. It gives some credence to your words. I used to have a really obese doctor who always told me I need to lose weight. He might have been right, but it was hard to take him seriously. As the old saying goes: Practice what I preach, not what I do…
I aim to be courteous all time, even to people in the pit, and on the phone. I’m not as good at as I wish, but I try.
You need not lecture me to imagine how the person on the other end of the call feels; if you’ve read my posts so far, I have made it clear that I was polite when I got these calls. Post 140 and post 191. Politeness did nothing to prevent it, but I was still polite.
Now I just screen them out (like the one I just got from 13300000000 OHIO CALL. They can’t even be bothered to use their real number and company name)
I need to ask: Do you want to convey the message or just vent and feel better by insulting people? Do you really think your language will help convey your message?
One has to wonder about how valuable it is to be told that you know what you’re talking about by someone who so much doesn’t know what you’re talking about that he couldn’t figure out you were trying (unsuccessfully) to steer him away from buying a piece of crap.
