I have no idea if you can understand just how frustrating it is to be dysgraphic, and have it go undiagnosed for years and years. I don’t know, but it seems that you don’t understand just how frustrating it is to go through school being dysgraphic and having spelling/writing drills be absolute agony. I don’t know, but it seems you don’t understand how even when I’m sitting at a computer, I’ll churn out writing where the letters are reversed or in different orders, but it will still read the same to me.
So, um, yeah… ignorant and loud mouthed. You doin’ a great job here spunky.
See, if a guy were standing beside you having a pissing match, what would happen is that he would be bragging as he watched the end of his stream from far away, all the while oblivious that yours is running down his leg.
I absolutely defy anyone to take an honest reading of your initial posting on your referenced post and NOT read you as an overweening, self-agrandizing twit.
That isn’t to say I’ve never done the same thing, but I think the pissing match spoke- was lured to was fragrant enough to entice you as well. Me, too!
It’s not to say you’re not brilliant. Hell, you may be one of those nucular scientists of which GWB is so fond. It’s not to say you didn’t ave a tough time of it in HS, but you have to be aware that when you state something about yourself that places you above others, you will place a bullseye squarely on your back.
Give it a rest, save the venom for something interesting.
I do agree that a dog or a few kids would work a quite dramatic transformation.
“While I despise people who brag about their dogs, I must mention that my dog speaks French and Mandarin Chinese.”
Liberal, you and I have had our differences, and I don’t think I’ve been quiet about that. But I also hope I haven’t been quiet about the fact that I respect you, differences and all. Still, whatever your interactions with this ol’ timer are, they are not mine.
The problem here is that I don’t, and didn’t, have my head up my ass. I was simply relating how, for some children, being intelligent is very hard in school. For this, I was attacked by a bunch o’ folks in the thread. So, if the price of accepting this beer o’ friendship is to admit that I somehow deserve baseless accusations and bile… well… I think I’ll buy my own beers.
The trick is that I’m such a slow typist I can’t possibly respond in anger. By the time I’ve hunted and pecked all the necessary keys I’ve calmed down again.
I didn’t mean to say you, personally, had your head up your ass. I meant it as in, “when one has one’s head up one’s ass”. I don’t know about the other guys in there, but Spoke isn’t the malicious type. He’s jabbed at me a time or two, but unlike a lot of people, he doesn’t really attach a lot of meaning to it. What happened, based on what I read, was that he said something pretty much jokingly and you bristled. There ensued an indignant man against a master jokester. You never stood a chance. Do yourself a favor, and cut him some slack.
Listen, for the love of Og. Do you think that if I wanted to brag, I’d use events from almost than a decade ago??? Maybe I could brag about high school sports while I’m at it! :rolleyes:
I related a story of my time in high school to elucidate the fact that life is rough for some kids because of their intellect. That’s it. If you (plural) are the kind of person who’d brag about freakin’ highschool, I’m sorry for you. But don’t push that ridiculousness onto me.
What pissing match?
I related an anecdote, and had people jump on me. As of yet, all I’ve been doing is responding to attacks.
Perhaps for folks who’re jealous or some such. ~shrugs~
The fact of the matter is, yes, I was identifiably ‘different’ from my classmates. Yes, I was, in general, smarter. I’m sure a great many Dopers understand what that’s like. If people want to see a bullseye on me because I’m truthfully relating the story of a challenging time in my life, so be it. I think that speaks more to their character than mine.
Um…
So, let me get this straight, people attack me, imply everything from that I’m trying to brag about my time in freakin’ high school to that I shouldn’t have kids, or at least not work to support them… and then I respond. And I’m the one who gets accused of slinging venom? I really do that this tendency on the Dope. If you insult someone, have the fucking balls to stand up and take it when they respond. Don’t go whining about how they should play nice and just let you insult them to your heart’s content.
Yes yes Bippy, you’re certainly the first person to make that claim! :smack:
Mind backing it up?
As of yet, all I did was post an anecdote, and was attacked for it. Explain to me why exactly that makes me some sort of bad person?
Oh, and, by the way, I wasn’t unpopular, I had a large circle of friends, but there were still a lot of vile little children who did their best to be hurtful simply because of my intellect. But I’m sure you were at school with me, so you can speak to just what the problems were, right?
If someone doesn’t score as well as you on an aptitude test, they are “a pink” or a “mediocretin,” or just plain stupid.
But if you don’t score as well as someone else on a spelling test it’s not because you’re not as bright as the other kids. It’s because you have some defect which prevents your true genius from shing through in this one particular area.
For what it’s worth, I did. It set my teeth on edge.
I graduated high school nine years ago. To me it seems very gauche to list one’s accomplishments in school in any detail. It is one thing to say that you were more successful than your peers, but it is quite another to list painstakingly a half dozen reasons why, or, god forbid, put your SAT scores on your resume.
It is not false modesty to avoid these kinds of laundry lists. To my ear, this is no different than telling a few people you barely know how much money you make or how much your car costs. Modesty is not jealousy or hatred of excellence, it is simply giving a damn about your audience’s possible sensitivities and not making an ass of yourself.
Much of the time I don’t bother, and the social costs I pay can be high, just as they were when I was younger.
FinnAgain, thank you for your thoughtful reply. It sounds like we had a pretty similar time of it in a lot of ways, though I probably had fewer friends since I was in fact exceedingly vain.
In retrospect, being the way I was gave me many opportunities to learn how to fit in. I wish I had learned these lessons back then. Now I have to listen to intelligent, experienced, and extremely senior people tell me that I need to dumb down the way I talk lest I impede my success.
Learning how to play to one’s audience without losing oneself is one of the most valuable things I will ever learn, and should I have children one day, I would not hesitate to make sure this lesson is learned young.
Exactly what part of that is 'joking"???
“Egotistical braggart.” what a knee slapper!
No, Liberal, he among others started a fight while I was in general still trying to be civil. Blaming me for his actions, or his flame, is somewhat lacking.
If someone insults me, I’m allowed to respond. Why exactly you think I ‘never had a chance’ is beyond me, expect if you’re pointing out that my critics entire argument is pretty much “Well, I read your piece a certain way!” Against that, no, I can’t really win, because it’s not a real argument.
I’m sorry, but no. He wasn’t joking, he wasn’t being tongue in cheek, he was being an asshole.
Finn - you weren’t attacked for being smart - you were attacked for ignoring the OP’s ire at people boasting about how smart their children are by posting about how smart YOU were as a child.
It was obnoxious. You know - like if I now tell everyone in this thread that I was so smart as a child I could actually stop people’s hearts just by thinking about it!
See - not the time nor place - this thread isn’t about me, and that thread wasn’t about you - you just dumped your big steaming bon mot of “I’m so smart” right in the middle of it, as if it had anything, whatsoever to do with the op. It didn’t, and it read as totally obnoxious, as did your repeated attempts to get us all to see that YOU’RE REALLY REALLY SMART! Fine. We get it. FWIW, you’re not the only one in the bunch.
Although for someone who claims to be SO VERY VERY SMART you sure do have a knack for missing the point.
I just think you’re taking this a little more seriously than some others in the pissing match (= argument). If anything, the strident tone of your denial makes more of this than there is.
Honestly, I didn’t think it was that insulting to call you a braggart. The ironic (yes, ironic) thing is that I’ll brag at times, too. Most people brag about something eventually. Probably not with the intellectual cap-in-hand “poor me” attitude, though.
Isn’t it a mark of honor to be picked upon for brains nowadays? Have we learned nothing from sit-coms and “B” movies?
Um… mind citing where I said that? Cuz, like, I never did and you’re lying?
If you’re taking SubGenius labels as gospel, I really can’t help ya. But suffice it to say, yes, getting all upset over someone not hiding their intellect is a very Pink thing to do.
Aside from the fact that you needed to generate not one but two strawmen to make that argument work, I’d say no.