Jesus Ch…I mean, Ove gevalt!
My Maternal Grandfather voted against a guy joining his Mason’s lodge because the guy was Jewish. He must have missed a staff meeting.
The Rotary Club? Those fiends!
Regards,
Shodan
At least Hamas doesn’t yet know that we Jews also founded the Loyal Order or Water Buffaloes. Yes, we have been secretly manipulating human society since pre-historic times.
Oh hell, I forgot my Illuminati dues!
There is not much more that Israel can do to Gaza - total economic control, military blockade and murderous invasion. Not much is left.
Also, the Iron Dome exchange has provided sufficient data. Now it is a matter of using $100,000 dollar missiles to perhaps knock down a $1000 rocket. Also, Hamas and others are gathering data on the effectiveness of the Iron Dome.
The Israeli strategy of overwhelming force has failed. The Palestinians are at the negotiating table and Israel has withdrawn.
It’s an interesting impasse.
Crane
You sure are confident for someone who seems so wrong.
During the war with Japan the US, UK and Russia created an equitable peace agreement at Potsdam. This was rejected by Japan.
The US persisted while the Japanese were using allied prisoners for slave labor, sending balloon bombs across the Pacific (9300 bombs, 6 deaths), conducting suicide attacks on our military and sending the worlds largest battleship out of port. The Japanese were not deterred by US bombardment. The US persisted under these conditions and a peace was negotiated.
The current Israeli position is absurd. The only solution available is political and that will require negotiation.
The Palestinians have accepted another truce. At present Israel refuses to negotiate. Peace is Israel’s choice.
Crane
So Hamas is the Japanese Empire in your analogy?
Does that mean they can nuke Hamas?
Here’s a videothat explains exactly who will be the victor in this conflict.
CarnalK,
No, but the balloon bombs were a greater threat to me at the time than the rockets are to southern Israel.
Outside of extermination there is only a political solution. Neither Israel or Hamas can improve their negotiating position by military action. The rockets are not an issue.
Israel is in posession of all of the power. Hamas has nothing. Israel must create and propose an equitable solution. That is the parallel.
Crane
Except that Israel has proposed solutions. The Palestinians rejected them and Hamas has made it clear they will never agree to a solution that allows for the extistance of the Jewish state.
Yes, they have suggested at times a hudna(ceasefire), but I’m sure you’re familiar with Islamic history and why they use the term hudna.
I don’t think that’s what “must” means.
Are you Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf ?
Ibn,
Everything is negotiable and state propaganda is not binding.
When did the current administration of Israel make an equitable peace offer?
Crane
Hamas broke the cease-fire. Israel doesn’t negotiate during periods of fighting, save only to propose cease-fires…which Hamas breaks, time and time again.
Israel didn’t withdraw because they aren’t willing to negotiate. They withdrew because of rockets in the air.
How could anyone conceivably believe that?
I guess Israeli shelling of Gaza is “not an issue.”
The Right of Return is “not an issue.”
Hey, groovy, we just solved the entire problem! No issues exist; there are no obstacles to peace.
Hamas is not a state.
Are you saying Hamas doesn’t really believe that Jews are the descendants of apes and pigs for who the killing of children is deeply ingrained in their psychology to the point that they used to kidnap Christian children and then bake them into Matzoh?
What makes you believe that?
Do you feel that the KKK also doesn’t believe they’re racist propaganda?
The rockets are not an issue if Israel wants a resolution to the problem. As posted above, Japan was a beligerent all during the Potsdam negotiations. The Japanese balloon bombs killed more US citizens than the Gaza rockets have killed Israelis.
Is there a moral imperative here, or is it just might makes right?
Crane
Ibn,
Who knows what the leaders actually believe?
the fact is that everything is negotiable.
Crane