This strikes me as an interesting paragraph. What sort of organization does athieism have and how does it exclude the groups you list? If religion is the basis for a bunch of bad -isms, why would atheists be afflicted by those same bad -isms? Finally, I thought the most well-known atheist was a woman. Did she organize her group around straight, white men?
I’m still using Atheism XP and don’t plan to upgrade.
The + looks like a cross. You’ll just confuse the shit out of people.
Bringing up the term “atheist” in casual conversation is more offensive to my fundie family members than calling them “fucking cunts.” I’d rather not fight about terminology when the beliefs are the important thing.
Let me know when it’s out of beta testing.
So they’re activists for social justice (and other secular causes) who happen to be atheists.
I’m not terribly thrilled about the idea from a pragmatic standpoint. America has a very low opinion of atheists. Like really really low, if you look at political polls. And Atheist+ advocates for things that I care about. So if they get a lot of press, people will associate social justice with atheists. I would rather they divorce their politics from their non-religion.
You mean similar to how gays re-styled themselves as Gay Plus, which finally endeared them to the religious and patriarchal hegemonists after centuries of mindless oppression ? ![]()
Well, then it’s a flop. “Atheism Plus” is a term that will mostly annoy atheists.
Atheism is a stance on deity. Secular Humanism is an ethic. We’re covered for terms.
This term will be very appealing…
…to teenage atheists living in their parents’ basements.
We are Batman?
Personally, as one who worships Athe, I’m totally happy with the descriptor atheist.
Meh. By painting this movement as a “new” thing, with “plus” stuff, it kind of implies that atheists didn’t care about social justice and those other things before. “New and improved! Just like the OLD atheism, but now with compassion!” It’s as if they’re validating the common assumption that atheists didn’t have morals, but NOW, they DO.
Atheists aren’t a movement. Or, if they are, that’s a tiny subset of us. I doubt if many of us give a rat’s ass what other atheists think.
Atheism Plus™, now with extra compassion®!
Yeah, I don’t need to be part of a Movement. It takes too much energy.
That’s a fair point IMO. To many people it will not look like “atheist, plus”, they will read it as “atheist, but”.
Atheists for Jesus!
Are declared atheists who don’t attend an atheist church non-practicing atheists?
*“We care about poverty, war, and injustice,
Unlike the rest of you squares!”
*
I think it’s a silly idea. There’s no reason to assume atheists have any common social program. And there’s no reason to assume that religious people don’t share the same social beliefs that the OP described.
And why feel there’s some need to organize around atheism? Should atheists, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, and Muslims start organizing around their common non-belief in Hinduism?
You win.
Alain de Botton: Atheism 2.0, a video on TED.com: