Since I have yet to receive a description of the “god” that needs to be disproved, I’ll provide my own: God is 7 inches tall and blue-green, with green eyes(5) and tentacles(217), can make milkshakes turn into plowshares, and resides only in my coffee cup.
My coffee cup is empty.
God Is Dead.
I dunno what you were drinking out of it but I don’t think it was coffee.
The point is, you can’t disprove something if you aren’t told what that something is in the first place. Since all I get when I ask for a description of the god that is supposed to be disproved is either a runaround or(usually) complete silence, I thought I would come up with a description of a god and the proof that it doesn’t exist, just to show that it can be done.
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Mine is still alive, and these fuckers reproduce like rabbits on viagra and letrozole.
Did you need a spare?
No thank you. I can’t have milkshakes any more because my basement is filled with plowshares.
The people that believe in God are wrong. There are two Gods. It is the height of arrogance for people to assume there is only one God. Show me the proof of one god. You cant, can you. Neener. Neener.
Just speaking for myself, here, I always find referring to people one disagrees with as ‘fucking twats’ to be a compelling, airtight argument.
Just great-Now I’m envisioning Nancy Sinatra singing “These twats were made for fucking…”
Well, no, that’s not at all what one might expect. If this “sense” reflects something that actually exists you would expect some kind of commonality. Instead, the concepts that different cultures have of the spiritual world differ diametrically and contradict one another. Some don’t imagine deities at all, but simply that the natural world has spirits of some kind associated with it. Some include a creator, in others the world exists before any god comes into being. Some envision a god of good will and peace, others like the Aztecs believe the gods require the wholesale murder of other humans to maintain the cosmos.
Humans do seem to have a psychological need to seek supernatural explanations for natural phenomena, but this doesn’t provide any evidence that there is a single or even multiple beings of some kind behind it, any more than the fact that everyone dreams means that there is some kind of dream world that has a real existence.
He said there are no other gods. God wouldn’t lie, would He?
This. If I say “I am Iron Man”, you don’t have to prove me wrong.
I have to prove that I am Iron Man. I have to put up, or shut up.
… and the God Of The Gaps - for the things we can explain (yet). So convenient.
sort of “a wizard did it”.
No, it is actually “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”.
So who knows? Maybe Osiris and Odin are out there somewhere and we just can’t offer any smelly burnt up offerings for them, or plunder any English coastal villages for them???
Meant to say … can NOT explain (yet).
Nonsense. Most of these gods have very different and often contradictory rules. (They all say no murder within the tribe, but that’s about the commonality.) Some forbid the making of idols. Some pretty much require it. Some are in pantheons. Some claim to be singular. What kind of feeble god can’t make its desires known?
And those are just gods that humans have come up with. What about gods on other worlds?
Maybe the real god is the god of a planet where the inhabitants got intelligent say five billion years after the Big Bang and who actually shows up instead of being hidden? Why is that hypothetical god less likely than ours? (Why did our god wait so long to let us be created? Did he have War and Peace to read or something?)
Maybe our world is accidental, just the byproduct of a universe created for god’s real chosen. Maybe they have gone to their version of heaven/nirvana already? Maybe we better hope that god doesn’t decide to end the experiment.
All as plausible as any human god, more so because it does not contradict known facts in any way. But no reason to believe in it until we get some evidence.
There’s a starfish in that video, isn’t there?
Actually, he commanded the Israelites to “have no other god before me”.
Historically, that was because the Temple was actually filled with the shrines and priests of a lot of different gods, including at one time Inanna-Ishtar, who was referred to but not named in the bible.
So basically “Stop putting other gods in my temples”.
But more commonly thought of as “Hey, I’m the top god here.”
That’s the only bit that makes sense to me; if this universe was created, was it created by the sort of being who carefully planned it all out? Or was it one that got really distracted by messing around with rocks, slime stuff and giant lizards, then two days before the deadline went ‘Oh crap, I was going to make those sentient monkey things’?
I mean, look at the damn appendix. That was a caffeine fuelled 3am botch job and no mistake.
I don’t understand why the atheist position is so hard for people to understand. I don’t hate God, or reject God, or worship Satan, I just l live my life without the assumption that it/he/she exists. Think about dragons. It is certainly within possibility that dragons could exist. Maybe not flying ones, but large lizard-like creatures that breathe fire. Perhaps their metabolism could produce methane.
But there is no evidence of them and most of us live our lives with the assumption that they don’t exist. We don’t even have to make up words like a-dragonist.
It’s the natural human tendency to fail to see the bigger picture and to keep insisting on fitting all new experiences and knowledge within our already established mental frameworks.
Like when Portugal and Spain started moving in all over the world followed by the rest of the Europeans. Everywhere they went, the locals merely treated them as yet another local power and tried to ally with them and use them against their enemies. In the end, they were ALL conquered because of their shortsightedness.
So too with religion. When you’re raised a conservative Christian, you’re actively taught to fit EVERYTHING into that context. Satan is behind every completing religion to lead men astray, which is a big folly of men in the bible. Atheists do not actually believe there is no god, they’re only saying that because they’re either deluded by Satan or because they’re actually angry at god and are intentionally denying him. Gods before “God”? Nope, God was around forever, men just keep forgetting him.