“There is no god, but if there were, he’d certainly hate fags” would make for some unwieldy signs.
It’s sooo much easier to compose a response to the voices in your own head instead of the words I actually post, isn’t it?
You have not offered one essential piece of information:
Are they sexually attractive?
Obviously, this is key.
No, it’s soooo much more fun to read your eyerolling, tsktsking, answering-questions-with-questions pretzel twisting logic trying to make it seem like it’s everyone else who doesn’t get it and you and those who agree with you are the only ones who make sense in your silly thread based solely on how things exist in your imagination. Your imagination where door-to-door evangelists are treated wonderfully and welcomed and gosh things sure would be different for an atheist doing the same.
The more I read the more I think Kimmy had it right earlier with the persecution fantasies. When you get a drawing of what your SUPER ATHEIST MAN superhero costume looks like, be sure to post it up so we can all ooh and ahh about it.
< Eliza >
Why are you concerned about the voices in your own head instead of the words you actually post?
< /Eliza >
Whatever.
I agree. That’s pretty much exactly what people would say after they shut the door on the Fuller Brush Atheists.
Denied access to place billboard already bought and paid for.
Another bilboard company refuses to take on atheists clients…and puts up religious ads to counteract them instead.
Atheist billboards taken down after violet threats are made to billboard company.
Billboard torn down after one day.
Billboards come down because of threats.
edited to add: You’re welcome.
I don’t think it was the atheist part that people found offensive there. :rolleyes:
Maybe quoting the Bible was just too offensive? What about the other links?
Taking these in turn…
1. Landlord welching. Of the several you list, this is probably the closest that comes to anything resembling a real offense (and not simply “failing to agree with my side,” which though you may (lol! what do I mean “may”!) percieve this to be an offense, it actually is not). And really, here the offense is a pretty run-of-the-mill breach. You sign a contract to let Clear Channel run ads on your building, then you’re deferring the billboard’s content to the Standards and Practices Department of Clear Channel. That said, I am curious as to whether you understood that is what took place here (as your phrasing seems to suggest you understood this to be a two-party dispute, between landlord and AA, rather than the three-party dispute between Clear Channel, the landlord, and AA). AA and the landlord never agreed to anything directly, so it wasn’t really welching on a deal they had.
2. Refusal to post the ads; put up opposing ones. Welcome to Free Speech and Free Enterprise! Let’s nip this objection in the bud: “They refuse to do business with atheists!” In fact, they didn’t, as, after all, they met with AA (suggesting that they were, in fact, contemplating doing business with them). It is of course illegal to discriminate on the basis of the religious/atheist identity of potential clients. But I don’t see a showing that happened here (again, they met with a group called American Atheists to discuss an ad buy). Advertising platform providers are allowed to develop their own Standards and Practices to promote/protect their reputation.
3 and 5. Charlotte billboards. We’ve discussed this before. I refer you to this thread, post 179 et seq. Isn’t it remarkable that Amanda Knief hasn’t filed any police reports or the like associated with these fearsome threats?
4. One-day billboard. Classic Czarcasm mischaracterization. The billboard in question had line art of an African slave in neck chains and in mega-sized point type, “Slaves, obey your masters!” in one of Harrisburg’s most racially diverse neighborhoods. The demand to take it down came not from any Christian organization, but NAACP.
Do you think it was taken down because quoting the bible was too offensive?
I think it was private property that was vandalized. The people behind it said that in the interest of keeping the peace they wouldn’t press charges or replace it. The President of the local NAACP, on the other hand, said
That’s a funny way not to advocate vandalism-making a public statement that you were glad it was done.
Do you think this happened because people were offended by the bible quote?
I do, and I would consider that a good thing. The more awareness of these issues the better. I believe that most people lack a deep conviction, but simply go along with the crowd. If they saw that other people had the courage to stand up to these beliefs, then they might do the same.
Either that or see how incredibly delusional faith is. Then it’s just a no-brainer.
In my neighborhood (small town at the buckle of the bible belt), it would likely be akin to canvassing for the Democratic party in this red state.
If one were to canvas for the Green Party or the Libertarians, the response would probably be much like LDS or JW evangelists get: folks would think they were not “right” but mostly would be polite because neither had any kind of collective power to bring change to their lives.
The Democrats, though, that’s a whole 'nother ballgame. Not only are they not “right” but there are enough of them with enough power to do things like change society. Oh, the horror!
Atheists, if it were exercised, would (and in some places do) wield similar power. And fear can bring out the worst in people.
By “the Democratic Party,” you do mean the political party that has represented your small town in northern Middle Tennessee in the House of Representatives for about the last 140 years, no?
Yes, I can imagine canvassing for such folks would truly be an intolerable thumb in the eye of the Establishment! The blood curdles at the thought of what ghoulish horrors might be visited upon such canvassers!
No, it was taken down because the Atheists were airing the Christians’ dirty laundry.
If the atheists were proselytizing evangical Christians, the Christians would break them within three doors.
<Christian hugging the solicitor after offering some peach cobbler>
Christian: “Lord, thank you for bringing this confused individual to my door today. What an amazing miracle that someone unsaved would actually come to my door! Thank you for the opportunity to share your plan of salvation…”
<30 minutes later>
Christian: “May your abundant blessings be poured into his life, oh Lord, that he may find the meaning and everlasting joy he has never felt…”
<30 minutes later>
Atheist: “Um…may I interrupt? My mom has cancer and I need to get back home. I think she might be dying right now…also, I think I left the stove on…”
Personally I consider an atheist who actively tries to convert strangers to atheism to be exactly the same as someone trying to convert a stranger to their religion, whatever it may be. For people like that, Atheism is just another form of religion and I’m not interested.
Door knockers don’t get a polite response from me at all. The one exception being people supporting a couple of the charities I will actually give money to and even then it’s a quick donation and fuck off.
I have a sign on my front wall next to the door. It says: