Attack ads "accuse" politician of believing in evolution

Of course, before Obama, the last three Democratic Presidents have been from the deep South as well.

No, basically people said “if you think the evidence supporting the Big Bang is on par with the evidence for a biblical creation you’re sadly mistaken”. You could be an idiot, but chances are you simply don’t care one way or the other since neither help with the basics of life.

BUT when it comes to policy direction it’s imperative that the people making decisions for you understand reality as best they can. Science is the best method we have for knowing reality and predicting with some degree of certainty how it works. Reliance on god or some dusty old collection of prophecies are less useful.

You sound like one of those people who says “you shouldn’t make assumptions!”, since you couldn’t even function without them. You’re conflating the more vast definition of prejudice with the type which is socially harmful and usually morally wrong. If you’re willing to say that assuming all people who’ve won the nobel prize for physics are smarter than the average person is prejudiced, then it certainly can’t also carry the usual stigma of what the word prejudiced usually means.

If you can’t judge people based on their beliefs and what they advocate because it’s prejudiced, what the hell can people do to give you the information you need to make a judgement on them?

No, I’m judging people who belief in and live their lives by ideas that are not only verifiably wrong, but patently ridiculous. We live in a world where more knowledge is available to anyone who wants it, where you have to remain purposely ignorant and stupid to hold onto these beliefs, let alone be so passionate about them that you advocate forcing others to be taught your views.

I’m not pre-judging a group when the very purpose of that group is to promote an ignorant and wrong viewpoint.

Again, if someone in here said “every single person from Alabama is dumb”, you might have a point, but since no one in this thread has gotten anywhere near that, you’re just being silly.

Ok - what would happen if this same attack ad ran in New York or Minnesota or some other random place that isn’t like a fucking 3rd world 14th century backwater? The candidate running the ad would be laughed off. Sure, a small fraction of the populations of those places would agree with it and it would appeal to them, but the vast majority of non-retards would be insulted by it and it would backfire.

What happened in Alabama? It was so effective that the person being attacked rush to assure everyone that, no, don’t worry, don’t believe what they say, I’m a retard just like you guys!

This means the beliefs of the voting public of the average Alabaman is clearly different than the voting public of other places. I am casting a judgement on that difference in belief.

You say this like it’s the difference between two equally valid, reasonable viewpoints. It’s not.

If these are people who have a say about what gets taught to children in public schools, then they have a duty to examine the issues.

  • If they come to the conclusion that evolution is something so wrong that it’s an insult to believe it to be true, then they are stupid.

  • If they didn’t examine the issues enough, then that is also the work of stupid.

  • If they secretly know evolution is true, but play up creationism to get elected by their stupid constituency, then they are both stupid, and stupidly working to keep the voters stupid.

Nope. Assuming that one group is smarter than another because the first group reaches rational conclusions based on evidence and the second group clings to what it wants to believe is postjudice.

“South Carolina is too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.”
–James L. Petigru

Yep, only in the south. It’s not like you find creationism in Kansas or Minnesota.

You’re a moron.

Wait a minute, I think I can check mate this:

The Discovery Institute

BOOYA! WHO’S YOU’RE DADDY!

Well I don’t think anyone mistook Kansas for being non-retarded (it’s not considered part of the south? Culturally it seems to be), but what are you referring to in reference to Minnesota?

What do you think this proves? Is the deeply ingrained cultural ignorance in one place offset by one institute that sets up its headquarters somewhere else? Any poll you look on the issue of creationism which accounts for region shows certain areas having more retards than others - do you seriously refute this?

Minnesota creationism, but I really think the Discovery Institute wiki makes my point damn near inarguable.

Could you explain why? If hypothetically one state has 5% of the public believing the earth is flat and another state has 75% the people in that believe the earth is flat, would you consider them equally ignorant if the flat earth advocacy society set up their headquarters in the former state?

Region is fucking irrelevant. Hell, let’s do the Brits!

Guardian link.

Those inbred tractor pulling motherfuckers!

That’d be kind of hard on Mexico, wouldn’t it? I mean, sure, they still have the South on their border - but an independent CSA isn’t a neighbor I’d wish on anybody.

Yep, the South will never be as enlightened and racially tolerant as states like Arizona.

Arizona creationism!

I can do this all day. Just pick a state.

Arizona, though, is constrained by the federal government - there’s a limit to just how unpleasantly it can treat Mexico. The same is true of the Southern states on the border. My point - such as it was - was that it really is better for the world to have Southern conservatism (which is concededly far from universal) constrained by a Federal system.

I’ve seen a poll about how many people believe in evolution and it broke it down by region, like norhteast, south, midwest, etc. But I can’t find it now. Anyone know what I’m talking about or able to find the relevant data?

Here is the definition from the on-line Merriam Websters

Saying all Alabamans are stupid would be prejudiced. Saying the Harvard PhDs are smarter than janitors is not - there are plenty of just grounds to say they are. If the evolution smear has legs, I think there are grounds to say that most Alabama Republicans are stupid - at least he ones likely to vote in the primary.

Anybody notice the ad, by saying evolution is liberal, admits that reality has a liberal bias?

In 1978 I moved from Illinois to Lafayette, complete with long hair and a strong New York accent. Never got hassled once. Cajuns are good people. As for ignorance, at the time they were still speaking an unwritten language, and had been so isolated that there were different dialects of French in towns 20 miles apart.