I saw this dumb show where someone had to run away from an attack dog with one of those suits on. What i was wondering is? A good attack dog, whether sheperd, rottweiler, pit bull, vs. your avg. 30 yr old 5’10 175 lb. guy. Who would win generally in a fight to the death? It seems strange that they are so effective in law enforcement at making criminals submit. They are trained to attack the right arm and shake and bring opponent down. Whenever I see this I cant imagine not being able to spin around and wrench its neck. Now i love dogs and could see myself submitting to it rather than hurting it, but i think so may feel otherwise (softee). I know there is a surprise factor in those police dog takedowns, but in a ring with great attack dog and average guy, who would you bet on? One thing i notice is that domesticated dogs don’t really have a killing strategy - they don’t go for the jugular like a wolf instinctively does.
- The show was Fear Factor, NBC’s reality show.
- You double-posted the same OP. Stop it or we’ll put you in that show.
- You also forgot to use the search feature.
Overall, people seem to feel that you are seriously deluding yourself: an unarmed person hasn’t got very many good optoins against a trained dog who is serious about killing them.
Bullshit.
I will employ my superior intellect to quote lengthy excerpts from the poetry of Wallace Stevens at the dog. When it falls asleep from boredom, I shall proceed to bite it to death.
Or you can just say witty things like that above and let me spew Pepsi[sup]tm[/sup] at the dog clogging up it’s lungs so it cannot breathe. (would be better than all over my monitor like it currently is. Thanks Ukulele Ike
He’s not kidding. I was at his last dinner party. He served the Shi-tsu from next door that pissed him off.
And the mailman. Apparently, it worked on him, too.
Beware Ukulele Ike and his readings.
Actually, I heard of one such case where a man defeated such a dog quite easily. Many years ago, whilst listening to the old Larry Lujack morning show on WLS in Chicago, they had a show called “Animal Stories” that features funny, true stories about… animals. Anyway, one of them I remember was about a guy who was about to be attacked by a german shepherd. All he did was punch the dog in the mouth, and managed to break one of it’s teeth. The dog ran away. So I guess that might work. Still, you’d have to have some mighty big cojones to try it!
So long as you keep your cool and don’t turn your back. A close friend of mine is a letter carrier, and he was attacked by a pitbull/rottweiler mix just this past Saturday. The dog gave him a minor bite wound, and he killed it with his hands still full of mail. This makes four dogs that he has had to kill on his route in the last ten or so years. A well-connected, full-powered kick from an adult male human has more than sufficient force to crush a dog’s ribcage.
Police agencies rely on our instinctual fear of pain, which those teeth are more than equipped to provide. Dogs can also generally run much faster than a human. So even if a fleeing criminal turns to deal with the dog, this gives the animal’s handlers time to catch up.
Although IANAPDF (I am not a professional dog fighter) I disagree. If a strong man gets his arm around a dog’s throat and can hang on that dog is dead within minutes. The man might get chewed up terribly but if he can establish and maintain a choke hold he will win. Dogs are quick, however, the key is getting the dog to forget normal caution and expose it’s throat for a grab.
Unless the dog manages to get it’s jaws around your throat, the man will probably win. That will be a problem for the dog as we have flexible limbs and grasping hands to keep the dog off of vital areas - a 175 lb. quadruped with our speed and natural weaponry wouldn’t have much of a chance.
If the dog is fierce enough the human may well have injuries that would be mortal if it wasn’t for modern medicine after the fight, so if we are leaving technology COMPLETELY out of this then it’s a Pyrrhic victory. Add a second dog to the equation and the human will die first.
I’m not scared of any single dog. I have a relative who was a gang member and into some extralegal stuff in the 60s and 70s and he says a single attacking dog is pretty easy to take out of commission. He said what works best if you have a bit of time to react (i.e. the dog isn’t immeditately on you) is to lean forward and hold one arm out in front of you. The dog will instinctively leap and attempt to bite the exposed limb. You pull your arm back at the last minute and kick the dog as it jumps, will either hit it’s ribs and crush them and/or knock the breath out of the dog or you will get it’s abdomen, which will cause lethal internal injuries. If a dog latches on to you you can try gouging at various sensitive areas with a free hand to force it to release, attempt to break it’s neck, or knock it unconscious. I’ve never been attacked by a dog so this knowledge might not be very useful, but I think part of the reason I haven’t been attacked by a dog is I am confident I would win in a one-on-one fight and the dog can sense that.
y’all should really read the link posted by Manda JO. It was a two-pager dealing with all sorts of aspects of poochy combat; the most important one being that despite how tough you think you are, you’ll most likely be scared sh*tless by a charging hunk of muscles and teeth who won’t give a crap if you flash a gang symbol or quote Clint Eastwood. You don’t hear about too many fugitives that kill police dogs with their bare hands; they always seem to end up cowaring and screaming like children while Rex gnaws through their arm - and if anyone would have the motivation and nastiness about them to kill a dog by hand it would be them. The other thread also talks about theory vs practice of the various techniques used and how UNLIKELY they are to work unless you’ve had a lot of practice. After all, it should only take one quick movement to kill any MAN… but how many of us are willing to step into the ring with Mike Tyson and try it?
Yeah, the initmidation factor of a snarling, slavering attack dog is a strong deterrent. If, however you have someone who a) isn’t scared by that and b) is willing to put a bullet in poochy-woochy’s head, then I’d put my money on the (trained) human every time.
In one of his Travis McGee books, John D. MacDonald had the narrator describe how to take out an attack dog-basically you turned to face its charge, then grabbed its front paws and used its momentum to turn, throw and flip the dog past you. Not that I’m advocating you try it with Rover tonight when you get home, but that always seemed like a logical way of dealing with it.
Do we really need another dog attack thread?
Yeah, well, I noticed YOU cleaned your plate.
You don’t have to be a man to do it. There was a case here in Sweden, a couple of years ago, when a girl kicked the brains out of a pitbull. She had a background i karate, though.
Ah,but one major advantage a dog has,even if it isn’t weight,is its jaws.A dog’s jaws and teeth are much better equipped to disembowel a living being than a man’s molars.It’s also more convenient for the dog and it can do it faster.If a man tried to use his jaws,he’d be lucky if he could bite off a piece of an ear.The (trained) dog has the killer instinct while the man is defensive and that makes all the difference.
Man wins.
Attack Man vs. Toy Poodle Puppy
Man again, no contest.
Attack Dog vs. Average Joe
I got my money on the dog.
Somebody suggested choking the dog.
Try this on any good sized dog. The dog will be amused.
The average person will probably go down before a trained attack dog every time.
Somebody who’s familiar with large dogs and/or police dogs probably isn’t going to have too much trouble.
My advice?
Keep your hands in your pockets as long as you’re standing.