Heh, probably. 
I just have a feeling that a coup on the way to success would have the gov’t in custody by the time we have heard of it.
I’m not willing to bet $$$ though.
Greece had a right wing coup in 1967 and Portugal had a left wing coup in 1974.
ETA: on the other hand, some reports saying Erdogan to give statement soon. Should be an interesting few hours. I hope there’s no (further) bloodshed.
He’s been trying to install himself as a permanent dictator. Though he hasn’t been doing so recently (at least not publicly) and has been backing down from some of his more aggressive stances overall, so it’s a bit strange for them to move at this particular moment.
If they’d moved on him a couple of months ago, I would have understood.
Okay thanks!
Guess I’m mildly rooting for the military then. Erdogan is kind of a dick.
Erdogan is indeed a dick, but Turkey is still democratic enough that a military coup is wholly illegitimate. Never root for rule by the military in a democracy.
It seems to have been the best choice for Egypt.
Heh - we shall see. He could be “making a statement” from a military prison. 
You are right, it is too early to call, we can’t have any real idea what is going on.
So they have both a president and a prime minister? Who has more authority?
Greece was a member of NATO when the Colonels’ Coup occurred in 1967.
The President, well nowadays. Erdogan is the one who wields the power and has been trying to follow Putin’s playbook for keeping it.
Prior to Erdogan, the President was more symbolic as in other Western parliamentary democracies with a President as Head of State.
Apparently, Erdoğan was out of the country, so it is most unlikely the coup has him in custody.
As God is my witness, I thought Turks could fly.
Yeah, if you’re into torturing and murdering Islamists. I think that’s a pretty short-sighted view, notwithstanding its popularity in Washington D.C. and Tel Aviv.
It’s possible that they could keep him out though. Erdogan doesn’t seem like the type to try and sneak back in, even if it makes more sense.
Holy shit. :eek:
The issue is that, without having him physically under their thumb, he will be a focus of countercoup loyalty. Given that he’s the legitimate head of the government (whatever you happen to think of him), this I think reduces the chance of the coup spreading beyond its initial conspirators.
But again, to early to call.
Did you see the ‘Presidential Palace’ that Erdoğan built for himself? Democratically elected people generally don’t build things like that for themself.
I welcome a more secular Turkey.
Not sure how far the reach of the AKP extends, beyond the populace. If there are pro-AKP portions of the military, then it would be problematic as you say. But if the party is just politicians, then locking up those politicians should suffice to keep a lid on everything, so long as the people decide to accept that the military has a point about Erdogan.
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