So is it standard procedure to set up tree stands on private property? Bizarre.
Permitted, with the owner’s permission, of course.
Once you get out into rural America property lines aren’t always well marked. It is not beyond reason that one could inadvertently trespass.
And some people are just jackholes, but it doesn’t sound like that’s the case for anyone in this particular thread.
I can’t disagree with this. I think if you are handy and know what you are doing then a homemade stand is Ok. But I see why the general rule should be not to do it because if you let everyone try it then you’d get some failures.
Someone from out west would find the system in NH bizarre. But it’s a good system.
The way it works here is that private property is open to hunting unless posted otherwise. Most land actually shouldn’t be posted because the owners have it set up for “Current Use” which means they get a 20% tax break, yet must leave the land open to the public for cross country skiing, hiking and other activities, including hunting.
It’s common for people to pay the lower rate and post the land anyway, which I generally respect. It’s a bad idea to get on the wrong side of landowners, even if you legally are in the right.
However, I have this one place right now that’s posted and I’m seeing great deer there. But not only is it current use, it’s a conservation easement which cannot be undone and is supposed to allow hunting in perpetuity. This situation is pissing me off. They want their cake and to eat it too.
Oh, and as to the treestand issue on private property: The rule is you can’t cut trees or branches without landowner permission. But most stands don’t require this. So, yes, you can put a stand up on someone’s property without permission and this happens all the time.
The way most tax maps look you cross over a dozen different landowners when you take a short walk in the woods because the lots are generally smallish. Getting permission from everyone wouldn’t be practical. However, if you’re hunting one large farm or something then knocking on the door in summertime is a good idea.
What state is that? That’s madness. Permission from the landowner is an absolute requirement in every state I’ve hunted in.
New Hampshire.
Live Free or Die!
-The only state slogan that you can seamlessly add “motherfucker” to the end of.
It’s a great system. The hunters raise a lot of money buying licenses. The money is used to fund the current use tax breaks. Landowners can take advantage of this but must allow hunters to get an extra 20% discount.
It just seems to me that you are kind of setting up an “attractive nuisance” on someone else’s property. If some kids climbs that stand and he falls and breaks his neck: who is liable for that?
I should clarify post #44. “Current Use” drastically reduces the amount a landowner pays, but doesn’t require hunting be allowed. It just requires that the land isn’t built on. The recreation adjustment is a 20% discount on top of current use that applies if you do allow recreational use, including hunting. It makes the anti-hunters put their money where their mouth is.
The real beneficiaries of this system are the hikers and birdwatchers and mountain bikers who get free access to all of this land that the hunters are paying for.
I have no idea.
Generally landowner permission forms do include a statement that the hunter signs saying you won’t sue from anything that happens on the property. I’m not sure how enforceable those are, though.
I can tell you that if you park your car in any suburban neighborhood in NH and walk into the woods you will see treestands. They are everywhere.
You don’t have to be “anti-hunter” to not want men wandering around shooting at shit on my property. ISTM, BTW.
You are sounding a bit anti-hunter in your post claiming not to be anti-hunter.
Heard on the radio today that we’ve had 14 hunters fall out of trees this season. There’s a line in here about it raining men but … eh, not touching it, too sad.
Lol. Well if I had a plot of land where I wanted to wander, let my pets loose, allow strangers to hike/ski through it is kind of difficult to say oh yeah a bunch of random people can also set up tree stands and fire off rifles. I don’t want hunting banished or anything but I sure would be uncomfortable with armed strangers deciding to set up a shooting range out back. Also them setting up semi permanent structures on my land without my knowledge let alone my permission.