Attention-physicians, Biologists, Epidemiologists, Virologists & Others! Alert!

Using UV radiation to steralize surfaces is a common practice in many labs that do tissue culture work.

THere are some problems with this. RNA viruses are most easilly destroyed by UV, single stranted DNA should also be pretty vulnerable… assuming of couse that the interactiosn between the DNA strands in double stranded DNA would make it so more energy was required to cause point deletions and strand breaks.

Then you have enveloped vs unenveloped viruses. Enveloped viruses have a plasmid membrane surrounding the viral protein core which is another layer of protection to block UV radiation.

Bacteria on the other hand, have both a membrane and a thick cell wall and I imagine would be less vulnerable to UV radiation. They are also fully competent organisms with DNA repair mechanisms (Mut S … or Mut L deals with point deletions right?)

Some labs run the UV lamps in their hoods overnight to ‘steralize’ the hood of contaminates. Even 16 hrs of a special, powerful UV light doesn’t kill everything in the hood. I highly doubt that a bright sunny day will really make much difference.

Especially when you consider an aerosol pathogen. Those virions are going to be covered in mucous most likely, which will provide another layer of protection against UV radiation.

The problem is nobody knows what the pathogen is. Yes there are some virii that are unbelievably unstable outside the human body. HIV is one, it has a half life of min outside of an organism. Even keeping viral samples I use in my research on ice when they are out of the -80 (the sample never goes over 4C for more than 30 seconds) I’m luckly if I can remove a sample from the -80 TWICE and still have 90% of the origional infectivity.

Basically it’s a crap shoot.

The lab I work in DOESN’T use UV lights to steralize anything.

I wouldn’t rely on sunlight to help keep me safe if there was a large scale outbreak of this disease near me. I’d abide by CDC recommendations, they’ve got the experience in this matter.

One thing. If someone starts selling “air filters to keep your home free of this virus” that are over .05um HEPA filters, they’re scamming you. Virii can range in size from 100-10 nm so a .2um filter stops fungus, mold and bacteria but not viral particles.

UPDATE__Scientists Confirm–it ain’t flu or pneumonia–North American Case Detected–UK Case Detected–African Cases Detected–Public Comparisons To 1918 Being Made For the First Time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2856163.stm

It ain’t funny no more, guys…

UPDATE__Scientists Confirm–it ain’t flu or pneumonia–North American Case Detected–UK Case Detected–African Cases Detected–Public Comparisons To 1918 Being Made For the First Time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2856163.stm

It ain’t funny no more, guys…

UPDATE–Cases emerge in Australia, Switzerland, 8 cases in Canada.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993511

Dude, Bosda you’re kinda going nuts over this.

  1. It’s not flu – which is nice since flu is just about the easiest to transmit virus.

  2. We don’t know what it is, nor how it spreads

  3. No information has been released specifically dealing with the pathogensity. Yeah yeah it’s some sort of lung infection which doesn’t help a lot. Does it have something to do with disrupting Cl ion transport in the lungs causing a buildup in fluids? Or is it a systemic cytotoxic t-cell reaction to lung tissue. Or is it more of a histamine/inflamation response. All of these things indicate different types of treatment and indicate the serverity of the illness.
    Are the deaths caused by decreased oxygen content in the blood from constricted airways? – can’t that be treated but increasing the oxygen content the patient is on?

  4. The fact that we haven’t heard of a massive outbreak in SouthEast Asia says QUITE a lot. That’s an area with substandard sanitation and medical facilities. Generally speaking, the worse the sanitary conditions are and the lower quality/lower amount of medical treatment available there will be a higher rate of outbreak. Also keep in mind, general health of individuals plays a role in viral spread.

North Koreans, suffering from foodshortages for a long time would be, generally speaking, more vunlerable to disease. Than say healthy canadians.

  1. The short incubation time is also nice. The faster people develop symptoms the earlier you can isolate them and cut down on the number of people they come into contact with.

  2. As it stands there is less than a 1.8% fatality rate. Not too bad considering that most of the deaths come from China, a nation not particularly noted for the highly advanced state of it’s medical field. Consider that you can expect a strong reduction in the number of fatal cases as doctors develop treament protocols for the disease, something which only happens as more and more people are exposed to it. Given the time frame here, unless there is a secondary infection associated with this disease we should see that 1.8% rate drop.

  3. There is already evidence that secondary infections from other humans is reasonably difficult. The first outbreak in china died down quite rapidly.
    It’s still pretty funny. There are no indications it’s rapidly sweeping the globe. With an incubation time as little as 2 days since the reports came out if this was as transmissable as the flu you’d expect 100’s of thousands of people infected world wide. Because each person on the plane would contract it, then when they got off the airplane they’d spread it to almost everyone in the airport then everyone gets it.

Once again, it’s the news media totally flipping out over something there simply isn’t enough information avaible yet to determine.

cough swine flu cough

2 Updates! American child in Vietnam contracts mystery sdisease–no know exposure source. Case unconnected to any known source of exposure. Speculations on an animal vector.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HAN282222

Possible identification of organism–mutant Paramyxovirus?

http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=0D25E805-3CBD-429E-909BD63932B9F14C&title=Virus%20Related%20to%20Mumps%2C%20Measles%20Could%20Be%20Behind%20Mysterious%20Illness&catOID=45C9C78B-88AD-11D4-A57200A0CC5EE46C&categoryname=Asia%20Pacif

Additional 34 cases appear overnight in Hong Kong.

http://www.iht.com/articles/90300.html

Additional 34 cases appear overnight in Hong Kong.

http://www.iht.com/articles/90300.html

Additional 34 cases appear overnight in Hong Kong.

http://www.iht.com/articles/90300.html

Bosda - I hate to say it, but I think you’re over-reacting just a bit. Large font? Does that convey your meaning any faster or more clearly? I understand that this is the first WHO global warning in 10 years, and I know some people are dying from it. But not most people, even in remote areas of China. I think it’s a little premature to be so alarmist.

Wishing you good health,

StG

Anyhoo, here’s to hoping my coworker caught this.

Here’s latest I’ve seen on this from BBC News online:

Paramyxoviridae? Huh. I wouldn’t have guessed that. Interesting.

It sure took me by suprise.

Captain Trips is on the move.

Anything new on this nasty bug? I’ve been following the war all day.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2867055.stm

Quick summary: many of the early victims were all on the same floor of a Hong Kong hotel between February 12 and March 2. Other victims have caught the illness from them.

If you have reservations for the Metropole Hotel in Hong Kong you might not want to stay on the ninth floor.

Also, eleven suspected cases identified in the USA.

The People’s Republic hides/withholds essential medical data.

http://www.iht.com/articles/90573.html