Attn undecided voters: Unofficial, unscientific SDMB focus group for debates

I’m posting here on the off chance that there are posters who can honestly say that they haven’t made up their minds for either candidate. You could be leaning one way or the other but if you can honestly say you’re possibly open to the idea of voting for Trump or Clinton, I dunno…maybe you could post your debate and post-debate thoughts here? And maybe the rest of us could try not to react too much to their thoughts?

  1. How would you describe your worldview: conservative, in the middle, or liberal?

  2. What are the top three important issues (e.g. immigration, terrorism, international politics, economics, social morality, religious freedom, etc)

  3. What region of the country are you from?

  4. Who are you leaning toward voting (if anyone)?

  5. What did you like about Trump’s performance?

  6. What did you like about Hillary’s performance?

  7. What did you dislike about Trump’s performance?

  8. What did you dislike about Hillary’s performance?

  9. Who ‘won’ the debate?

  10. Did this debate make you more likely to vote for the ‘winner’ or for either of the candidates?

Good luck with that.

Moderately conservative, in the sense of an abiding belief in individual rights, personal responsibility, limited government, and free markets. Neither candidate is anything close to conservative enough to agree with me.

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Immigration is not a major issue for me. Free trade is, but both Trump and Hillary are equally bad on that issue, although Hillary is hypocritical on the issues and Trump is not, just consistently wrong. Terrorism is not a major issue either. We are going to get the same level of terrorist incidents, either imported or domestic, no matter who is President. Racial equality is also not a major issue. Police shootings are going to continue at the same level, although if Hillary is elected the media will de-emphasize the issue for a while. Trump probably has a slightly better chance of actually dealing with the problem, although not the perception of the problem, because he mentions law and order in connection with the issue, while Hillary is more of a Neville Chamberlain-style appeaser of black criminals. But it is not a Presidential issue.

Upper Midwest.

Anybody but Trump, a.k.a. possibly Hillary, or Johnson in order to help the Libertarian Party in my state to get “Major Party” designation.

He didn’t come across as crazy as he might have. His line about the 400 pound hacker was good.

She played to her strengths, which are that she is a policy wonk.

I don’t believe a word he said. A week from now, neither will he.

He called her “Secretary Clinton”. She called him “Donald”. She doesn’t, IOW, have any more class than he does.

I also don’t believe a word she says.

No one.

Nope. There is nothing Trump can say or do that would induce me to vote for him. The best that can be said for Hillary is that she is the second worse major candidate in the race. If it appears that Hillary will win my state, I will (probably) vote for Johnson. If not, Hillary.

Regards,
Shodan

  1. Liberal

  2. In no particular order – fairness in the justice system, economic progress and opportunity, and keeping us out of overseas wars unless there’s an imminent and existential threat to the USA or a treaty-bound ally.

  3. I’m originally from Louisiana, and I currently live in the DC suburbs in VA.

  4. I am certain to vote for Clinton.

  5. Nothing.

  6. She reiterated (mostly) her stances on the issues that I agree with, and she got under Trump’s skin.

  7. He reiterated idiotic and incoherent policy stances. He lied many times, most notably about the racist birther lie (which is his original sin, in political terms, IMO).

  8. She missed some opportunities to further needle Trump and get under his skin. I think she could have been more forceful on his birther crap. On taxes she could have asked him if he just admitted (when he said “I was smart” about not paying taxes) that he didn’t pay any federal taxes.

  9. Clinton in a blowout.

  10. I was already certain to vote for Clinton. I’ve never missed a Presidential or mid-term election (and I only missed 1 odd-year local election) since I registered to vote almost 20 years ago.

:confused: I thought this was for undecided voters.

Alas, I’m not qualified to post. Since I’m* not* undecided.

Here’s Stephne Colbert’s “interview” with one of those folks…

Oops. I was so excited I just wanted to take part. Apologies for wasting the OP’s time!

To be fair Shodan doesn’t seem all that undecided either.

Not sure why you say that. He’s undecided as between Johnson and Clinton. That certainly counts.

I’m pretty much decided on Johnson, Clinton if the race is close in Florida, but it matters how I perceive her come November for deciding what “close” means. Not that my vote alone matters of course. I’m not going to elect Trump with a Johnson vote all by myself.

NOTE: Undecided between Clinton and Johnson. Trump is not under consideration for me.

  1. Conservative. I value social, economic, and political stability, and view change as something to be instituted only when it appears likely that a lack of change will lead to significant hardship. “Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.”

  2. Vocational training and education, economic growth, balanced federal budget.

  3. Midwest.

  4. Leaning ever-so-slightly towards Clinton

  5. Didn’t pay close attention to Trump, as I am not considering him and was watching mainly for Clinton. But he started out playing to what I feel are his strengths: (overly?)simplistic and assertive messaging, emotional appeals to the downtrodden, and connecting to the audience to varying degrees.

  6. Well-prepared and on-point. For the most part, she didn’t allow Trump’s jabs to become a distraction to her messaging.

  7. Devolved into incoherent rambling and defensiveness; could not summon the self-discipline to maintain his early debate strategy throughout the 90 minutes. Towards the end of the debate, couldn’t even bear to keep his mouth shut for 2 minutes without blurting out “wrong!” and such.

  8. It felt like same-ole, same-ole. Cliche and recycled plans that were light on details, even accounting for the relatively short time limits that were available to answer questions. I tuned in hoping to hear something that might indicate while Clinton could be counted upon to be the steady, predictable, “vanilla” politician, she had one or two twists on standard playbook she intended to bring to the table.

And this may just be me, but I absolutely hated the smirk she adopted when Trump said something false/outrageous/incoherent.

  1. Clinton came out ahead. Although I’m not considering voting for Trump at all, I felt this debate was about Trump’s ability to maintain emotional connections with the audience vs. Clinton’s ability to connect intellectually by clearly outlining her interpretations of the issues and potential solutions. Clinton was fine but unremarkable, Trump failed.

  2. The debate didn’t increase my enthusiasm for Clinton. At the same time, she didn’t say anything horribly stupid (how’s that for a low bar). So my “ever-so-slightly Clinton” leaning remains unchanged.