The X-Men will show up to save the day?
I agree.
I’ll wait to hear from cmkeller (the OP) on that. If he’s OK with the change, then I’ll change the title (and hopefully be able to avoid this thread thereafter).
Right.
So is Marvel lying about upcoming movies that star those who were dusted? Are they all going to say “the following takes place five years previously?”
Well, sure the deaths are real. I believe they are absolutely real, within the context of the fictional Marvel Cinematic Universe. Thing is, also established within that universe is a device that can rewrite reality, and whatever it rewrites reality to, then *that *will be absolutely real within the context of fictional Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Personally, I think Marvel Studios is about as likely to permanently kill off the MCU Black Panther and Spider-Man as they are to seek a permit to cordon off Times Square, assemble a huge pile of hundred-dollar bills totaling at least $500 million, and setting fire to it.
Marvel could go with Miles Morales as the new Spider-Man. Rocket saying he was had to be captain could be foreshadowing the new Guardians featuring him, Nebula, Thor, and - I dunno - Sylvester Stallone?
But probably not.
I would be absolutely thrilled if Rogue - somehow - showed up to lay a finger on Carol Danvers and turn into the powerhouse she is in the books.
I read somewhere online (Vulture? Screen Rant?) their speculation that A4 would be named based on Doctor Strange’s line when he gives up the stone: Avengers: Endgame
I like that it sells the finality of this stage. And if any of the Big Contracts are truly moving on, that will “justify” the MCU selling closure.
If they can pull that off - give MCU fans a sense of story closure AND fired up for the next stage - man, what a Win.
Chronos:
Fire away.
Contractually, they could not. They owe Sony another Spider-Man movie with Tom Holland as Peter Parker. The only way to get around that is to set Spider-Man 2 before the events of Infinity War.
I wonder if Captain America will once again plot-contrivance his way into some kind of missing-in-action fate, off to a future that Surely Needs You Now More Than Ever.
You mean like they did in the comics in the 1960s, in his modern origin?
Uh, yeah. Only I’m suggesting that, after he went from WWII to a situation where he meets Iron Man and Thor for the first time, he then does the Rip Van Winkle bit again to once more do the Man Out Of Time thing in 2050 or whatever for a while, in adventures that’ll presumably culminate in that same guy falling back asleep until he eventually mutters “what, a third time?” upon thawing out in the 22nd century.
Umm…okay?
This actually makes me more certain we’re getting a time jump at the beginning. They are telling the audience to accept it because the characters will have accepted it and moved on. I think we’ll go through a big chunk of the opening with no one discussing Thanos or the Ashing all to the point the audience will be lulled into forgetting about it…and then someone is going to say his name and everyone will stop.
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Contracts can be re-negotiated (in secret even). I’m sure for a big enough pile of cash (or a different movie instead) Sony could be brought around if they did want to move onto to Miles Morales Spider Man. Black Panther is whoever is the king and wears the suit, so its possible Black Panther is back, but different actor and different King.
Scarlet Witch, well seems her arc was more or less done, she had nothing left to live for with her brother and now vision gone. Guardians of the Galaxy 3? Sure we know there’s a 3rd movie, we don’t know which GoTG members they will be. And potentially Groot can be grown again from the handle of Thor’s axe? Mantis and Drax are not really a big deal to not bring back, same with Winter Soldier and Falcon, they are minor players. As far as Dr Strange, there’s no sequel announced for him and Mordo is potentially still out there undusted so potentially he could become Sorcerer Supreme?
Marvel has said "There will be two distinct periods. Everything before Avengers 4 and everything after.” Bringing everyone back by reversing the snap doesn’t achieve that. In the comics we have new versions of most of these characters now anyway - Tony retires and we have Ironheart instead, Spider Man becomes Miles Morales etc There’s also plenty of fresh characters to bring in especially now that Marvel has rights to the X Men and FF back (as well as Wolverine quite a few other X Men have been Avengers at different times).
Really Spider Man is the only character where you have to think “oh he has to come back” Everyone else is interchangeable. I guess it’s always possible they figure out some way to undust only Peter Parker and not everyone else? Anyway I don’t know what will happen but I think at least some of the dusted characters are going to stay dead.
My assumption is all (or at least most) will be revived, but many will die permanent deaths come the next movie. Like a lot of people, I reckon it’ll be Cap or Iron Man. Peter Parker’s going to be around for a little while. Miles Morales may come into the picture, but that’s a few films away for sure.
Side note: Ant-man and Hawkeye were the only living heroes from previous films not to have made an appearance in Infinity War, right? Surely to end the first generation of the MCU they’ll want to have everyone fighting in the final battle. Then again, maybe that’ll all be too much to follow.
HowSoonIsThen:
Does Agent 13 (Sharon Carter) count? She’s nowhere to be seen in A:IW, and still alive as far as I’m aware.