Avengers 4 speculation thread [Infinity War spoilers]

Various forces have made Coulson and his crew Public Enemy #1 the last couple of years, so there is no way in hell the Avengers don’t know he is alive.

Not once have the movies paid even one minor nod to anything going on in the TV shows though. That relationship only flows one way.

They’re still unambiguously canon and I don’t think the movies will contradict that any time soon.

As for characters from marvel tv showing up, I don’t think we’re going to get anything beyond cameos. Maybe someone will need a lawyer and they’ll visit Matt Murdock, but I don’t see daredevil making an appearance. Plus the Netflix shows are definitely not suitable for children so they might be even more reluctant to directly acknowledge them in the films.

But on that note, the Netflix shows have always made minor references to the films but never overtly described anything that happens in them. It’s going to be impossible to ignore the events in infinity war so I’m very interested to see what they do (though they’ll probably all be set before infinity war or after avengers 4)

Phil Coulson will be back in Captain Marvel (set in the 90s). It possible that whatever they do to save everyone in A4 might have a way to reintroduce him to the movies.

…no they don’t. That deal is not a sure thing and is literally years away.

Recently Comcast has shown some interest in buying up Fox, so we’ll see what actually happens.

The movies have seemed to imply that SHIELD is gone. In several Movies (Spider man being the one I thought of first) they used Damage Control where previously they would have used SHIELD.

From a real world perspective, the teams that make the TV product and Movies don’t get along so I would agree this is all one way and the movies wouldn’t think twice about contradicting the TV show if it suited them creatively.

Damage Control was only in Spider-man, mainly just to give a reason for for Vulture to hate Stark. On the show, SHIELD went dark after Winter Soldier, only briefly reappearing shortly after Civil War. The only movie that really happened in that period was Spider-man, but SHIELD, on the show, was more concerned about Inhumans so it’s not something they would have gotten involved with. They also reference Agents of SHIELD (secretly) in Ultron when they help bring the helicarrier back.

Well that was depressing. I don’t see all the superhero movies, I’ve missed several. However I went to see this one because I kept hearing there was a twist at the ending.

No twist, but very dark.

Joe and Anthony Russo, and Keven Feige will devoutly protect their stories, especially one this important. They will deceive fans and cast. After last year’s Ruffalo incident, I wouldn’t believe anything the producers say or any set shots I see.

Yeah, you are better off completely ignoring anything that comes from official channels. They swore up and down that Hawkeye was in this movie also.

No, it’s not literally years. It’s literally a year at the very most, unless Comcast’s bid is accepted, which is not likely as the Murdochs want that Disney stock.

At the most? You think?

Anyway… I called it.

Every report I’ve read about the Disney-Fox deal is that deals like this take between 12-18 months to go through the FTC. It’s already been 5 months, so I guess technically, it’s not likely to be more than 13 more months, but probably less, given that the Murdochs don’t change their mind. Comcast already outbid Disney, but they’re offering cash whereas Disney is offering stocks and Disney stocks are likely to appreciate whereas cash depreciates due to inflation.

It wasn’t a “1 in 14 million” chance, like you only succeed if you roll 6 on a 14 million sided die, which would never happen. They succeed if all the conditions are met in that 1 sucess of 14 Million scenarios that Strange envisioned. I assume the actions he took afterward were respondent to that condition.

Infinity Wars 2: Deus Ex Machina. No way are the characters they killed are going to remain dead. Bet me your pennies against my $100 bills.

did all of the original Avengers survive? Yep, contrivance.
Even though half of them should have died, can’t have much of an Avenger movie without Avengers.

Yeah, exactly. There is too much money to be made in marvel films for them to kill off so many main characters.

Hell black panther alone grossed over 1 billion dollars so far. And it still has a lot of time to recoup the costs of production. They aren’t killing that golden goose, no chance in hell.

I remember in the movie Dr Strange ran 14 million simulations, and the avengers only won in one. Then he gives the time amulet to Thanos, and says to Iron man something like ‘its the only way’. So I’m assuming in part 2 that it turns out that this was all part of Dr. Strange’s plan, and somehow they get the time amulet back and reverse time to bring everyone back to life.

They aren’t killing billions of dollars worth of characters.

I think we can move beyond the “of course the dusted characters are going to come back.”…yes…we know. The idea is HOW will they be brought back.

I think people are misinterpreting what Gwyneth Paltrow was saying. The decade she is referring to is from the first Iron Man until now.

There will probably be a bit of a time jump (maybe the very beginning takes place immediately after IW with a cut to “One Year Later” or something) but it won’t be a decade. In any event the bulk of the movie will take place in the past (I think) so the opening setting won’t matter much.

the time crystal. Reverse time and stop it all from happening.