Like I can fucking tell from the name.
Nice rolleyes.:rolleyes:
Rap is wildly popular, it’s played on multiple media. The fact that some stations censor it doesn’t mean it’s not out there.
Sure - but if the “No” was less than emphatic, is there any set time when the guy can broach the subject again? Next date? Later that night? Is it always impermissible to rephrase the proposal? Or present another argument in support?
In my experience (also shy and clueless in matters romantic), at least occasionally “No” actually meant, “Not right now,” “Not yet,” “Not that particular thing,” or many other messages.
This version is terrible. It leaves the impression that the man just isn’t into the woman at all and can’t wait for her to leave.
Well, there’s the disconnect. Because that is just not really true.
I’m not saying that games aren’t played or that women don’t play coy at times*. But the situation in this song would not happen today. Bringing up wanting to leave so often sounds off. But, probably most strikingly, people just don’t joke about there being stuff in someone’s drink. That shit is taken seriously. It would kill the mood. at the very least.
I don’t know why this is so complicated. The song isn’t rapey in its time period, but it sounds more so today due to changing mores and a lack of appreciation for the cultural context.
Both of these are easily proven: the fact that this topic comes up shows it sounds bad in a modern context. And the fact that everyone understood it just fine and can provide a perfectly cogent explanation shows it wasn’t so regarded in its time.
Yeah, that’s more nuanced than “Yes it’s date-rapey” or “No, it’s not, (and how dare you think so!).” But that’s the answer.
*Examples:
In college, one girl would talk all about her boyfriend, but then she’d regularly call me over to cuddle in bed with her, and give her back massages she would then brag about the next day.
Or another girl who was always touching me, sitting on my lap, giving long hugs, kissing me on the cheek, sitting way too close, etc–all the while telling me about her boyfriend of the week. And I know for sure this one liked me, since she got drunk one night on Facebook and told me, years later.
And, yes, I did bring these up so I wouldn’t get people acting like I’ve never been out of the house and thus couldn’t possibly know what I’m talking about.
My boo yesterday asked if I put something in her drink. I answered in the affirmative. She hit me but she drank it. 
The extent people joke about stuff is determined by the nature of the relationship.
Thanks madsir. Woulda shocked me to hear than no one has ever joked about roofies. Some way no one ever joked about a Mickey Finn.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree, no big whoop, but what does your having spent your college years in the Friend Zone have to do with any of this?
Bah, you’re trying to listen to it like the original. Think of it as a novelty song. It’s funny exactly because the man’s responses are so over-the-top earnest, and because it really does seem like the woman would rather stay but the man is not playing along, so she winds up at the end out in the freezing cold.
It wasn’t roofies. We were at Starbucks she was chatting with a male friend. She was drinking iced tea.
Her: Get me a refill
Me: Yes D
Bring back refill
Her: Did you spit in it?
Me: Spit? No…think lower…
She laughs and smacks.
She has a feisty sense if humor.
Pretty much this. If someone insists that when they squint and tilt their head, they see something then I guess they see it. But I can’t share that opinion and have other things to do than squint at songs to find something to be potentially offended by.
The song certainly didn’t. Didn’t joke about it, didn’t allude to it, didn’t suggest it. It’s only modern perspectives based on totally different situations that are prone to think that way.
Apparently it was very important for us to know this about him.
Yep. And this song was written in 1940 something? Geez people, thats like 4 or 5 cultural generations ago!
A measly 2 or so cultural generations ago, the movie 16 candles had one “hero” getting his target woman passed out drunk and scoring some well deserved sex. The music video for “Putting on the Ritz” had people in black face for Pete’s sake.
Let’s face it-the song is hopelessly dated.
“No cabs to be had out there” just wouldn’t work in this day and age. He has to know that if she really wanted to go she’d get an Uber.
I think of the original as a novelty song. This soulless version lacks any of the charm the original had. I’ve heard a lot of versions of the original but this is the first one I just thought was terrible.
I agree and this is OUTSTANDING!
I actually had to go through the song to get what the hell you were talkin about willis. :smack:
On topic, awful song, but I think the critics are reading too much into it and it says more about them than the song.
“Pussified” version? Is that one where the “aw, c’mon, stay” character a woman who hopes to convince the “no, I gotta go” character to try a bit of lesbian experimentation? 