Babywise: How Have You Escaped The Pit This Long?

Is it…wrong…that I"m laughing at the image of a bunch of kids hanging around like hams? If it’s wrong…I’m sorry…but I’m still laughing.

I don’t remember anything about hanging children:), tho it makes sense to me. The book did talk about curing restless children by wrapping them up with their knees tight to their chins and booting them around the floor; or curing a whisperer by pinching their tongue in this cleft stick device that tied round their heads, with a sign attached to it stating “He whispers”.

What comes around goes around, it’s a never-ending cycle. This Ezzo fuck needs a bit of his own fucked-up medicine. Let’s “smack” or “pinch” him to teach him some manners and rules. I truly feel for any child raised this way. Babywise, my ass… let’s call it by it’s real name, EVIL.

Linda Vester is doing a show on yet another baby to die of SNAHT. Well, he hasn’t died yet, but officials are trying to decide whether to pull the plug. This is as good a place as any to express my fucking disbelief. What the hell do people believe they might accomplish by jouncing an infant like a paint can in an agitator?

What is SNAHT? Shaken Baby Syndrome? (That’s the only thing I can get from the context of what you said).
What will they accomplish? My dad was once bouncing me over his head when I was but an infant. He received a face full of partially digested baby formula.

:wink:

I was just going to say Guin, when I was small, my uncle thought it would be ‘funny’ to hold me by the ankles and shake me upside down after Thanksgiving dinner. BLUUURGGH

http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html

Ezzo meet Maddox, Maddox this is Ezzo.\

Now the link, of course is sarcastic, but I immediately thought of this article when I read the OP. Enjoy

Going to Google doesn’t do anything other than prove that any search will turn up porn.

Those people are fucked up! I searched through their articles a little. Did you read the one where they call vegetarianism “Satanic”?

When I was pregnant with my twins I read a lot about baby care - it gets overwhelming pretty quickly, but some of the information proved helpful. In particular, the growth spurt and how a baby’s feeding pattern will change in order to prompt the needed output from Mom. Isn’t is pretty obvious that a baby’s body has no way of knowing that it isn’t being breastfed, and therefore will vary the feeding demand even though it isn’t necessary? How on earth is a baby supposed to know that the milk supply is constant? And isn’t it pretty obvious that Mom’s letdown response to a baby’s crying means that a crying baby is supposed to be fed? I’ll never understand how people believe that our innate programming is wrong and should be overriden according to a philosophy that’s been around for a few centuries.

If you want to delve into the belly of the ignorant beast, as it were, visit here or any of the other threads therein. I’m weary of arguing with these fools.

One thing I don’t understand - when my kids cry, it’s always for a reason. It may take several tries before I find the reason, but eventually I do and they stop. How do people “know” their kids’ crying is meaningless? Or is this something I’ll encounter when they get a little older?

In some of the cites provided about Babywise, it is stated that Ezzo doesn’t believe in “innate programming”, AKA “maternal instincts”. He says that only animals have instincts, and humans have no such thing.

Well that’s just fucked up.

fessie, kids crying is never meaningless, but it isn’t always driven by NEED. Its sometimes driven by WANT, even when they are very young - and sometimes that WANT isn’t practical. A baby with a tummyache will cry hoping someone will take care of the tummyache (hey, I do too), but an instant cure for the tummyache may not be able to be provided, and there is no lasting hurt in not being able to meet your child’s every want (or even their every need). My daughter will cry (at four) because her brother gets to do something she doesn’t, because it isn’t her turn, because she lost at Hi Ho Cherry O, because her favorite dress is dirty and she can’t wear it to daycare, because she has to clean her room before she can go outside, because we aren’t having what she wants for dinner… And she cries because she is hurt, or tired, or needs attention.

A balance needs to be achieved which varies by parent and child between meeting a child’s every whim, meeting their needs, and rationally evaluating their wants. Although Babywise is evil, I think the opposite end of the spectrum (which you’ll occationally find out there - people who never let their baby cry for even minutes without assuming the cry is a need for food and immediately put breast or bottle in the child’s mouth - and yes, babies will eat if they aren’t hungry for mere comfort - I had friends with a 35 lb one year old who’s doctor told them their child was in danger of lifelong obesity if they kept giving food on demand, give into every toddlers tantrum, and run their lives around their children) is, in the long run, no better for a child.

You’re shittin’ me? SATANIC?

How so?

That’s fucking insane!

Here you go.

Morsels of wisdom:

“Soybeans and pasta will kill you…”

“Scripture throws a great deal of light on this Satanic doctrine of abstaining from meats.”

Jesus, this guy’s arteries must be shaking their heads and rolling their eyes.

C’mon dude, a carrot or two won’t kill you! Probably afraid Satan will shrivel up his weiner if he even looks at a vegetable.