Bachmann announces she's running

20% of Public School Graduates can’t read their own diplomas.

I wish I had a job where I could have a 20% defective rate and still have a job. Well, no, I don’t, because I think I’d be ashamed at that level of error.

Nobody here says Bachmann’s lunacy will prevent her from scrounging up 17% of the vote. Maybe even double that.

No, you don’t have it right.

First, there is no disputing that McCain was a better candidate.

30 years in congress and 20 in the military as opposed to 3 years in the Senate when he bothered to show up?

Second, you guys keep praising Republican “moderates” (which I consider myself one at this point) but you never actually vote for them. McCain did more to advance the cause of immigration reform as a Senator (and took hits from the right wing over it) than Obama has ever really tried. Obama still carried the Hispanic vote, tho’.

Third- ooooh, scary Palin. Right. Because really, the Vice President has so much to do normally. (Cheney was the exception because of Bush’s weakness on foreign policy).
The funny thing about Palin in 2008 is that you could have argued she was a moderate. She was a reformer in Alaska and she took moderate positions. (This is the problem ALL the GOP Governor candidates have, they had to take moderate positions on issues at some point.) She stood up to the Murkowskis and the corrupt GOP machine up there.

But let’s look at the reason WHY he took Palin. Because his own internal polling showed that those who supported Huckabee and Romney and more conservative candidates were unenthused, while the moderates who said for years they loved the guy were now going for Obama.

Again- my point being, you can’t say you want “moderate” Republicans and then not support them when the chips are down.

Because if you go to a Real Clear Politics or TownHall (where they say I’m a liberal commie for saying these kinds of things) they will tell you the reason why McCain lost was because he was “Juan McAmnesty” closet liberal, and all we need to do is nominate a “real” conservative this time and win.

And the way Obama is screwing up, they could probably nominate the Cheney/C’Thulhu ticket and win.

Wow, guy, the point went right over your head, didn’t it?

My point is that Bachmann can win, if the economy sucks as bad as it does now.

The decision will be made by that 10% in the middle who vote on who they’d like to have a beer with. And with 9.1% unemployment, they’d probably like to do what that Cambridge, MA cop wanted to do with his beer.

Get a job implementing ERP systems:

http://www.it-cortex.com/Stat_Failure_Rate.htm

KPMG Canada survey on ERP implementations - 61% of respondents deemed their projects had failed.

Doesn’t mean it isn’t a “real job”. It just means that 20% of the employees may not be up to scratch.

What about the 80% that can read them? Did their teachers have a “real job”?

What is a “real job” anyway? What is it that you do?

I’m a buyer, and a darned good one. Saved my company $300,000 in the last two years by managing inventory and making more effective deals.

Frankly, I don’t consider “being able to read your own diploma” to be a very high standard, and they can only reach that 80% of the time.

And how is that any less a “real job” than a teacher that educates a child and gives them the tools to do that in the future? Did you get taught or did you educate yourself all the way?

You still haven’t answered “what is a ‘real job’ anyway?”

Yes, there’s some shit teachers out there. There’s also a school system that works against them. This doesn’t mean that teaching is not a “real job”.

Frankly, I’d say educating is far more important than what sounds like a pencil pusher that just makes a few numbers move around on a piece of paper. I’d go as far as saying as teaching is one of the most important jobs out there and it depresses me that anyone could write it off as not a “real job”.

And no, I’m not a teacher.

Cite?

Um… at least one of those words doesn’t mean what you think it means. Is it “dispute” or is it “better” that you’re unclear on?

When you think that Palin could be one senile, cancer-riddled heartbeat away from the White House had McCain won, it doesn’t really matter what the veep does. And to be perfectly honest, part of the reason McCain picked her was because he likes her ass. This is an old horndog who dumped his first wife after she became disfigured and overweight following an accident, and got himself a trophy wife. This is the guy who “suspended” his campaign during the financial crisis to rush back to Washington and pout in the corner while the adults figured out what to do. This is a guy who obsesses over earmarks, a tiny tiny fraction of the federal budget.

For Republicans to win, they need to say what they would do. Saying they’re going to cut taxes isn’t going to go cut it, we’ve been there, done that, bought the t shirt and it didn’t work. Stuffing the ballot with anti-gay marriage proposals isn’t going to work again, society has left them behind on this and that old dog ain’t gonna hunt no more. The few ideas they do have, like destroying Medicare, aren’t going to win them any votes. They’ll get the votes of the white racists but that’s about it. If Bachmann gets the nomination, she’ll make the Reagan-Mondale race look like a nail-biter.

So you get paid to shop? Must be nice, but not what I’d consider a “real” job. Heck, most people shop and buy stuff every day. And most of us do it with our own money too.

He is a piece of work, isn’t he? My gaydar sucks and it goes off the scale with this guy. He comes across as “very-religous-gay-man-in-denial.” Overcompensating for his “sinful” thoughts by going batshit crazy into God. Running a christian counseling center i.e “pray your troubles away” is a real gateway to medicare fraud. This will be interesting indeed.

You could be conservative pundit, they are wrong almost 100% of the time.

He’d already harassed one black guy in his own house.

Indeed. Just saw a YouTube clip of him. That guy makes Richard Simmons look butch.

I can think of a laundry list of ways to dispute that.

Whether or not you agree with any of them is irrelevant. It’s extremely disputable whether McCain was the better candidate. Starting with the fact that, um, he lost.

I won’t speak for ‘us guys’ in general, but I don’t have much good to say about Republican ‘moderates’ in the current era.

But speaking of McCain, you might notice that in the wake of his endorsement of Bush in 2004, McCain pretty much turned his back on all of his previous moderate views. Why should he have gotten any cred in 2008, let alone at this late date, from fans of moderate Republicans?

Unless, of course, an unusually old President dies or becomes incapacitated in office. At which point, she can bomb Russia from her house.

WTF are you responding to? Are you one of the 20% (and who says so, anyway? You?) who can’t read? I asked you three questions, and you gave three answers, but they don’t line up at all.

My first question was if you voted for McCain over Obama. Your response was “there is no disputing that McCain was a better candidate. 30 years in congress and 20 in the military as opposed to 3 years in the Senate when he bothered to show up?” So that’s a Yes, with a weak attempt to show why you right and the majority of voters were wrong–but all I asked was if you voted for McCain.

Next, I asked if you thought the problem with Dems is that they DIDN’T see McCain (with Palin on his ticket!) as the better candidate, and you responded “you guys keep praising Republican “moderates” (which I consider myself one at this point) but you never actually vote for them. McCain did more to advance the cause of immigration reform as a Senator (and took hits from the right wing over it) than Obama has ever really tried. Obama still carried theHispanic vote, tho’–” WTF are you rattling on about here? Nothing to do with my question. Did I ever praise a Repubolican moderate, other than to say it would be nice of they would try to be civil, and avoid taking insane, counterfactual positions–is that your idea of praise? With the likes of Bachmann, Palin, Huckabee, et al. insane and incivil is SOP.

Finally, I asked if you thought McCain would have been a better President, and you respondedwith a rant about Palin, who is one of the strongest arguments AGAINST a McCain presidency.

Are you unwell?

McCain lost for a variety of reasons, and it’s doubtful that any Republican in the race could have won in 2008.

You can’t confuse better resume with better candidate. George H. W. Bush had a better resume than anyone who ran for president last century (Eisenhower being the special case outside of politics).

But. McCain ran as someone who repudiated all the reasons he was considered to be a good candidate in the first place. That is perhaps the one totally unforgivable sin in American politics. It destroyed the career of Hubert Humphrey, who was once considered the leader and conscience of the liberals, when he dumped all that to run as a surrogate Johnson in 1968. McCain will always be remembered as the man who screamed maverick from the rooftops for 20 years and then repudiated the word when it counted.

McCain did not run as a moderate. He ran as a conservative, and doubled down on that by making Palin his veep. Americans will obviously vote for a moderate Republican. George W. Bush ran as a “compassionate conservative” in 2000 and that was sufficient to make voters believe he was a moderate. The last thing they wanted in 2008 was another candidate who was a conservative masquerading as a moderate. They won’t go for one in 2012 either. The center point of American politics is nowhere near conservatism. If the race is between Obama, who has angered his base into screaming fits because of his moderation, and Romney, who is a former moderate repudiating his record, or an actual conservative, Obama will win. (Extrapolating from today and barring disaster or terminal weirdness.) And that remains true even with 9.1% unemployment. You can say that a thousand times in as many threads, but it’s simply not true and you won’t be able to understand the dynamics of this race until you get rid of that notion.

You mean that he responded to a call, and Professor “self-important” decided to play the race card.

Sorry, I had a similar situation where I locked myself out of my own house. Once I identified myself, the officer was courteous and I didn’t give him any lip.

I was going to give a detailed response to your drivel, but since you resorted to insults instead of discussion, I’m not going to bother.

Hey, Obama’s disapproval rating is up to 52% in the latest Rasumussen poll.

So, yeah, I think it’s time to break out that “Don’t Blame Me, I voted for McCain” bumper sticker.